I just read an article, evidently CA has pass a new law requiring all new passenger car sales in the state be ZERO emission, other than hydrogen (toyota) I read that to mean EVs by 2026! This is certainly going to change the market dynamic, 2023 is just around the corner, that leaves 2 years and 4 months ,until this happens. I've heard two different points of view regarding the cost of new ICE powered cars/trucks such as our beloved f150. As CA is the largest single auto market, I wonder how the values of used ICE vehicles will fair, and will there be an even higher registration fee, in an attempt to discourage ICE ownership/use. My hope is the cost of f150s with ICE drop in the other states, along with the cost of fuel-as those EV drivers in CA won't need it, the law of supply and demand, may bring the price back down to the 2020 lever-under $2.00/gal in most states. The EV maverick won't have far to go, once it crosses the U.S., Mexico border, they'll be waiting in line to buy them CA! Note: if you are not investing in battery stocks-it is time to make the move!
I MUST MAKE A CORRECTION, I MISSED TYPED, THE 25% SHOULD READ 35%.

 

Do you have the source for the article you read?

I did a bit of research, but would like to see the article (if I have not already) you read.

Thank you for your time.

 

if you search “ca ev 2026” there is a plethora of recent articles online about the subject. Some say the goal is 35%.

 

To borrow a slogan from Massachusetts, I'll "....drive off that bridge when we come to it...".

Things change and none of this is set in stone.

Meanwhile, for urban and suburban car and light truck use, the electrics are "there" as far as range. Price, availability, charging infrastructure--not so much.

But there isn't enough juice to charge a few million of them up every afternoon, so like I said, things are likely to change.

 

I also just read an article about this topic so I'll just post it here and say, even I didn't expect the swing to come this fast, not with current economy/times :etal being what they are.

"The rule, issued by the California Air Resources Board, will require that all new cars sold in the state by 2035 be free of greenhouse gas emissions like carbon dioxide.The rule also sets interim targets, requiring that 35 percent of new passenger vehicles sold by 2026 produce zero emissions. That requirement climbs to 68 percent by 2030."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...d5114b1b49ca2d

 

RLXXI, thanks for the post, I should have posted one of the hundreds of sources. I'm surprised guys on this board weren't googling the hell out of this. Several months ago, when the Gov. of CA issued an Executive order outlawing the sale of ICE by 2035, there were a lot of "experts" (we all know the type), that stated "it will never happen"! Of course, an Executive order, is in fact Law, it had happend! An executive order is easy to change, the next gov. says no, but as this thing is passed into law, it will be much harder to change or forget. I hope this does not catch-on in the other 49! As I understand it, if you own an ICE, you'll be able to continue to register and drive it, but after the cut-off date, No-New ICE cars. I guess that means you'll be able to sell your used ICE? If the law makers in CA catch this loop hole, there is going to be a lot of ICE cars/trucks being driven out of CA to be sold in other states. There is No question that will have a huge impact on the auto market, on both, the value of a used car and the perceived value of a given vehicle as it applies to finance. I can see why Ford is cutting $3,000,000,000.00 worth of payrole! They need to shrink the ICE and grow that EV line! It looks like Ford will ready, in advance, for the tidal wave of change. My heart goes out to those putting up big $$ for fancy ICE cars and trucks (those that live in CA), the speed of depreciation on those autos has a high probability of increasing! Talk about the value falling off a cliff. My advice for anyone living in CA at this time, if you're in the market for a new ride, buy an EV, and wait until 2023MY, prices are dropping.

 

Then the state of Cali should set the example and lead the way by immediately changing their fleets over to electric to include state and local LE agencies, DOT fleets, etc.

Yesterday coming home from work, I was behind a new body style Ford Explorer Police Interceptor that had a Hybrid / AWD badge on the rear gate. I thought this was an extremely smart and responsible use of the city's funds. A police vehicle that spends 90% of it's life patrolling the city and using very proven and reliable hybrid technology. I was thinking about it's exceptional range, great power, reliability and the lower buy in cost as compared to EV.

I believe that this is a great starting point as the transition begins.

 

Are you aware of the small engine bill that was already passed? Not only does it ban the sale of new small engines after a certain date it also prohibits the use of anything small engine not that far in the future from the date the new sales are banned. If this passenger vehicle zero emissions bill goes the same way you wont even have the option to get the rest of your usable life out of a passenger vehicle ICE model.

One of the states I have a small business registered in tried to pass the same small engine legislation as Commifornia. Luckily for now a large majority of us business owners showed valid disapproval of said bill and it is now stalled but not thrown away unfortunately.

 

Sir, I hope that police vehicle you were behind spent some time (out of the 90%) actually taking criminals to jail! I have no idea how great the CA grid system is. Has there been any studies that actually demonstrate the true number of autos that could be plugged in at any given time, without disruption? Two days ago, a friend in New Mexico called me, we discussed a "public planning meeting" he had attended. A retired professor from UNM did an impromptu look at charging station requirements at a large fuel center on I-40. He [the professor] took the number of cars/hour buying fuel, and the average time to buy gas, and depart the station, plugged in the number of charging stations that would be necessary for the same traffic-at 4,3,2,1 hour of charging, the numbers, and cost of the necessary charging stations was astronomical! BTW, he did the study on a Tuesday morning (10:00am to 12:00pm). I asked my friend, "what did the powers to be say?", he laughed and said, "all this type of thing is currently being studied.....". My take on it (and my buddies) was they were blindsided, and had no idea! I realize CA has some really smart guys running the state, they must have taken this into consideration-as not everyone is going to charging 100% of the time at their home, you just need to go up the interstate, and count the number of cars that are not buying gas close to home, i.e. on a trip, to come up with some real world numbers. With the new SolidState batteries coming to market, the charge times will be 5 to 10 minutes-a real game changer, sooner the better.

 

And they wonder why there are U-Haul caravans of people leaving Kalifornia every week.....

 

trouble is often times the Uhaul brings the CA and NYC mentality with them. All the CARB subscribing states around CA and NY used to be fairly neutral if not out right libertarian, but over time the emigrates spread the ideology wherever they go.

 

I know CA is fighting climate change, my question for those that are actually experts in the study of our earth's climate (over the last million years or so), if CA does this will the climate stop changing, or will it reverse and start going back to the climate the earth had prior to the invention of cars? I've been trying to find this info on the WEB, but haven't found anything other than politically driven comments (some very nasty, you must wonder about some people), but no university type studies, fact driven studies. If anyone can help directing me to an actual, intellectual (NOT political) discussion/study, that would be great-I'm sure I'm not the only one that would love to read it.

 

Your best bet is to sign up for science courses at your local university so you can get a full understanding of the actual issues at hand. A foundation and background in the science field is needed to make an educated summary of what you are reading from any publication no matter how reputable the source.

From my personal background completing the majority of earth, chemical, and biological science courses offered under a bachelors degree, its quite evident climate change is the natural progression of the world as we have studied and understand it. Co2 is not the enemy our political figures want us to believe. With that said what California has done with the clean air act and EPA has improved air quality for our personal health reasons as well as greatly curbed the pollution from acid rain to our water and soil for growing food. The entire green energy movement when broken down is just trading one form of environmental pollution for another.

Travel around the world if you have the time and resources, and not to the tourist locations. Refusing to extract fossil fuels, and other very harmful resources on U.S. soil does not solve the problem at all. Yes we keep our soil clean while the ocean and 70% of the rest of the world bears the burden of the pollution from everything that affords us our everyday lifestyle.

Claiming we have to stop climate change is an ignorant statement made to appeal to a voter base that is uneducated in said fields. Unfortunately, that voter base is our majority.

 

Not trying to get political; however, we (Americans) were told, for many years, that we had to fight the Global Warming, then all of a sudden, it was no longer Global Warming (Al Gore said we'd all be damn near dead by now) but the new chant is Climate Change! Cleaning the air is a good thing. I don't like it when I hear the majority of voters are uneducated, low I.Q.s to start with, and suffering from other mental problems, that is enough to scare anyone! Thanks for the great advice, I too have a BS, from what many consider to be a very good school. I am able to make an educated evaluation, that is why I'm looking for some academics with published peer reviewed articles, fully explaining their belief (and evidence) in the cause(s) of Climate Change (no longer Global Warming), is it reversable? how much change is necessary to stop this metamorphosis? Is it caused by man? My educational background has led me to believe, the earth's climate has been "changing" prior to the first hominid, and for at least 100,000,000 years prior! If CA is pushing EVs to solve Acid Rain, and improve air quality-the leadership should say so, without equivocation. Your observation, "Claiming to stop climate change is an ignorant statement....", seems to reflect, as you point out, the majority of the voter base in CA! For many in our country, watching the societal decay and tax situation in Ca, this comes as No surprise. I just hope the great guys running the state have taken into account the costs, to the individual and the state. I know the CA gov has asked for an extension to keep running the nuclear plant (past decommission date) to be sure, and they've laid in some Big Diesel generators to back up the grid just in case! Between the Nuc and diesel, I'm guessing all will be well. Two years, and four months passes quickly, If during this time, you are thinking about an ICE-you may want to hold out for a Lithtning, or other EV, otherwise you may get stuck with a boat anchor! God Bless.

 

Youre welcome for the advice, and too clarify about uneducated voters and just people in general, Low I.Q./mental development is a small amount. The majority of our population has a developed mental level fully capable of putting in the time and learning about the majority of topics that affect our daily lives, but they dont.

It took me until my mid 30s to get a pretty solid foundation under me of the math, science, and historical fields as well as completing my MBA. I went as far as my mental capacity could support and there is more I wish I could retain and understand without struggling from higher education, but I am no Einstein. It infuriates me to no end when I hold conversation with fully capable beings that just accept the majority of life at face value because someone else, that someone else, and someone else down the line accredited and claims they are the authority to listen to and trust.