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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 07:59 AM
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just a thought.

did they ever make an overhead cam 302.? i know they made an overhead cam 460 and that was a duel overhead cam. i saw one once.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 09:51 AM
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Not that I am aware of.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dremtofford
did they ever make an overhead cam 302.?
Yes...the 5L Coyote is a dual overhead cam design that was debuted in 2011. Probably not what you are asking about.


Originally Posted by dremtofford
i know they made an overhead cam 460 and that was a duel overhead cam. i saw one once.
I would like to see a photo of that one. I was not aware Ford ever produced a 385 series dual overhead cam engine. The FE series did have the very limited production 427 single overhead cam (SOHC) back in the 1960s.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 10:25 AM
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If there's a 385 Series DOHC engine out there, I'd be interested in seeing it as well.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 10:31 AM
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When saying "they", is that referring to Ford? I do know that someone made 4 valve heads for the small block, but I've never heard of over head cam heads for the small block. I wouldn't be surprised if someone tried it and made some prototype heads at some time. There are always hot rodders coming up with wild ideas and trying them out. After all, that is what hot rodding is all about.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by dremtofford
did they ever make an overhead cam 302.? i know they made an overhead cam 460 and that was a duel overhead cam. i saw one once.
What's the thought?
You asked a question.
A little research shows answers.

Early 60s Ford made an aluminum engine with OHC for INDY.
The dual overhead cam 385 series was a 429 for NASCAR. Incorrect, it was a 427 camer used in NASCAR.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by wwhite
What's the thought?
You asked a question.
A little research shows answers.

Early 60s Ford made an aluminum engine with OHC for INDY.
The dual overhead cam 385 series was a 429 for NASCAR.
I'm aware of the FE based 427 SOHC, also developed initially for NASCAR, but I've never heard of a DOHC 429 for the same purpose.

I'm not saying you're wrong, or that it didn't exist, I've just never heard of one. Not that I've heard of everything that ever existed, ever.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 11:58 AM
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So with a little googling, there *was* a Race-Only DOHC engine that Holman-Moody developed in conjunction with Ford, apparently, that used the 385 Series bore spacing. But it never was put in any Production Cars for Homologation, and they only built 10 of them, according to everythig I've seen with a quick websearch.

Supposedly this is a picture of one, sitting on an engine stand.

 
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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 07:18 PM
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I worked at Indy in 1968 (for Valvoline) and Dan Gurney's team ran the OHC Ford engine in one car and an OHV Ford in another car. IIRC, his team finished 3rd and 4th that year. The OHC engine car finished 3rd, and the OHV engine car finished 4th. The truly amazing thing is the OHV car ran the 500 miles on a 15% Nitro mix. I know for sure because I mixed the fuel. I was sworn to secrecy until the race was over.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2022 | 11:25 AM
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The 429 engine developed for NASCAR use was the Boss 429 on the street but it was not OHC.

The OHC engine used in Indy was a Windsor, but it wasn't a 302. It was based on the original Windsor engine used in the Fairlane and I believe it was 221 CID.
 
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I don't remember the size on the OHC Indy Ford engine, but I remember that the OHV Ford engine that Gurney used was a 302. At that time, Indy car engines had displacement limits based on engine type and OHV was 5 Liter. One owner tried to qualify a Chevrolet OHV 302. His attempt to qualify was on 50% nitro but his engine couldn't stand the strain. He never did qualify. Gurney had to have one terrific engine builder for his 302 OHV to run 500 miles flat out on 15% nitro.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2022 | 12:03 PM
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Where's the 427 tunnel port fall into this discussion? I've only heard a little about it, but no idea of any details about that engine.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2022 | 12:22 PM
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The 427 Tunnel Port was a pushrod motor. It just had mahoosively large ports, and they had to run a tube right through the center of the intake ports, to run the pushrods through. Hence "Tunnel Port" as they literally had a tunnel running through them.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2022 | 01:53 PM
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