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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 01:33 PM
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79 scab 4x4 C6. Picking up from the shop. Has the black stripe modulator. Still shifts SOFT. Turned the black mod all the way in and still soft. I told them to build it for 10-12K lb towing. It should shift much firmer. When getting on it can almost (barely) feel it shift. What's wrong? They say going to a green stripe will help firm the shift. Yes/no?

Thanks for the help. I do not want to sign off until it is correct.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 09:07 PM
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Green stripe will firm it up a little. Shift kit or a new valve body will help a lot. Broader Performance does an affordable valve body for towing. They do good work. Night and day difference.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 11:04 PM
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See anything missing or should have had? Anything here that might explain why it is shifting so slow and the rpm's climb between shifts. Thanks for the help.

Won't even spin the tires in the dirt alley.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 02:21 AM
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11 hours to remove, rebuild, and replace is sufficient time to do a thorough job.

The parts listed imply a comprehensive rebuild was done.

Only one band was replaced. (Pure observation and curiosity.)

No sign of a new oil ring for the manual shift shaft. (The oil ring on the outside of the case.)

A shift kit is reflected on the invoice, so one can assume it was fitted.

Even if the C6 originally required Type F, Mercon V should be fine with the new internals.
That said, I'm not familiar with the quality of Fram ATF.

I suspect a torque converter issue, or an installation issue (human error.)

I'd be inclined to return to the shop and ask them for their diagnosis and correction.

Is a large capacity ATF cooler fitted ?

I'd consider temp and pressure gauges. Very useful to have and observe whilst driving.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 09:54 AM
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I don't think the modulator has any effect on shift intensity. Just the shift points.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 10:29 AM
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Only one band was replaced. (Pure observation and curiosity.)
C6 only has one band

No sign of a new oil ring for the manual shift shaft. (The oil ring on the outside of the case.)
Its in the overhaul kit

Even if the C6 originally required Type F, Mercon V should be fine with the new internals.
That said, I'm not familiar with the quality of Fram ATF.
a 79 c6 used mercon, there was a different ford spec for it but thats what it was

I suspect a torque converter issue, or an installation issue (human error.)

I'd be inclined to return to the shop and ask them for their diagnosis and correction.
Agree
 
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Old Jun 11, 2022 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by black & blue 78/9
Anything here that might explain why it is shifting so slow and the rpm's climb between shifts.
So there is flare between shifts? (Momentary increase in rpm or tear away of engine power during shift)
if so, they need to make it right. Something is wrong. Possibly affecting main line pressure. I'd ask them to put a pressure gauge on it and run it on the lift and see what the pressures look like. You can also run it on the road eith that hooked up and get an idea of where it is. I'd have to look up specs as they're not committed to memory.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2022 | 03:52 PM
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Well the shop is working on it today. They say changing to a green stripe will help. One of my customers is a retired master mechanic (he's 72) said it sounds like the line pressure is not high enough. Hopefully the shop calls today. Any thoughts?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2022 | 02:08 AM
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I also don't think that the modulator is the issue.

It is more likely to be something 'silly' like not paying attention when swapping in the shift kit parts.

I hope they fix it for you and don't come with BS excuses.

Thank you Aldridgec for correcting my comments. Now that you mention it, of course there's only one band in the C6. Duh !
 
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Old Jun 23, 2022 | 09:34 AM
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Shop said he is changing internal spring(s) for line pressure. Should be done today but I work to 9pm today so will be tomorrow afternoon before I can test it again. Thanks for the help.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2022 | 07:00 PM
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Got a text, the springs did not arrive with UPS today. So I wait, again.
 
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