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Old Jun 9, 2022 | 07:38 PM
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The price of gas being more expensive does sux. But guys that cry about fueling price and driving a SD and say they'll sell it because of that didn't need a big boy truck to begin with. I guess looking cool does have a price. 🤔
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
The price of gas being more expensive does sux. But guys that cry about fueling price and driving a SD and say they'll sell it because of that didn't need a big boy truck to begin with. I guess looking cool does have a price. 🤔
This reminds me of all the threads on how owning a SD is a statement of wealth....until they have to pay for the gas.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Grass Lake Ron
This reminds me of all the threads on how owning a SD is a statement of wealth....until they have to pay for the gas.
It is amusing reading some of those threads. These trucks are just expensive tools for a task to be filled or aleast for some.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Grass Lake Ron
I'm so sorry you think that.......

I drive 55 mph and get over 16. Come fill my tank (with my money), sit with me for a week as I drive and calculate it yourself. This offer stands to one and all. Fuelly is what it is....it is not the be all and end all. The Log you read over 14 was me (gipsy danger). This was before the engine was broken in). Look at my truck photo and look at the 7.3 godzilla thread, post #2.
So one truck out of 32. Your the exception to the norm. Anyone who posts dash MPG is showing false information because unless it has been calibrated using something like Fuelly, and can back it up, then it is giving a false reading. When I post what my MPG is on either truck I have proof to back it up that is easy to access.







Every tank is recorded because I want to know what it is doing, not so much that I want to get the most per gallon, but as an early indicator of a problem

 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
So one truck out of 32. Your the exception to the norm. Anyone who posts dash MPG is showing false information because unless it has been calibrated using something like Fuelly, and can back it up, then it is giving a false reading. When I post what my MPG is on either truck I have proof to back it up that is easy to access.







Every tank is recorded because I want to know what it is doing, not so much that I want to get the most per gallon, but as an early indicator of a problem
Two things: Thats great, but my wife got tired of me doing that type of recording. Two, after 8000 miles, the computer was changed to 0.964 rather then 1 because it was off in mileage. All of my hand calculations after the changed were the same within 0.014 of a gallon. If someone records data that is a good thing. Putting all you eggs in one basket and calling it the "only" thing......bad. This reminds me of cold fusion. I teach science. I know how to collect data and run an experiment. I do it 5 days a week. My mileage is an experiment I run every week. I know my data is correct. I don't have to convince you. Your mind is already made up. As I said before, open invite to check my mileage. One week driving with me, you pump and calculate. remember I listen to 80's rock in the mornings and jazz on the way home.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
It is amusing reading some of those threads. These trucks are just expensive tools for a task to be filled or aleast for some.
You wonder if the number of high end SD's will be sold with high gas/diesel costs. I bet that it goes down.....even giving the chip issue and the high end toys. I bet there is a group that use it as a toy rather then a tool. I will be honest, compared to you and your job with your SD, mine is a toy. I do haul a boat and utility trailer, but nothing all the time. I also drive it accordingly. It is my daily driver. I don't own a classic car, muscle car, motorcycle, bro cycle (side by side) or any other wheeled toys, but I do have a SD.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 08:25 AM
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The 7.3 can easily see 16+/- mpg if conditions are right, I've done it often. If a guy can controll the need for speed especially. This past week went from UT to KS back to UT (2,300 mile) mileage ranged from 12 to 14.5 mpg. Driving at steady speeds 75-85 mph (posted limits 70-80 range) and windy conditions is not conducive with great mileage.

In the thread I posted my 50,000 mile average mpg of combined fillups, my average killer is long idles I do with my truck, my truck is my office on the job site.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post20352799
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Grass Lake Ron
Two things: Thats great, but my wife got tired of me doing that type of recording. Two, after 8000 miles, the computer was changed to 0.964 rather then 1 because it was off in mileage. All of my hand calculations after the changed were the same within 0.014 of a gallon. If someone records data that is a good thing. Putting all you eggs in one basket and calling it the "only" thing......bad. This reminds me of cold fusion. I teach science. I know how to collect data and run an experiment. I do it 5 days a week. My mileage is an experiment I run every week. I know my data is correct. I don't have to convince you. Your mind is already made up. As I said before, open invite to check my mileage. One week driving with me, you pump and calculate. remember I listen to 80's rock in the mornings and jazz on the way home.

Like I said, yours is the exception to the norm. You get 100 of these trucks and maybe 5 will see the MPG you get. It is all in how it is driven. My commute and your commute are more than likely very similar, while the OP may have a completely different commute. He asked for real world numbers, Fuelly has that, provided the people using it are honest, or don't make a mistake. But reality is that the 7.3 will average out to 12-14 MPG for most drivers.

My F150 is an exception to the norm as it is 3-4 MPG over the average. There are a few who do better, but majority are well under it.

If MPG is a concern on a medium Duty, do you really NEED a Medium Duty? You can't get both, something has to be sacrificed, either the payload and towing, or the fuel efficiency. Or do like I did, get one as a daily driver that gets good MPG and a used older one for the heavy stuff. Of course, with today's market that is impossible to do, but between both trucks, I pay no more than what a new Superduty would be.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 08:49 AM
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Empty of course. Month of daily driving in rural area. LOTS of cold starts. Pretty amazing considering that it is half way to town before reaching engine operating temp. Tranny and rear diff never warm up. 4.30's and a 7.3.



 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
So one truck out of 32. Your the exception to the norm. Anyone who posts dash MPG is showing false information because unless it has been calibrated using something like Fuelly, and can back it up, then it is giving a false reading. When I post what my MPG is on either truck I have proof to back it up that is easy to access.

So your assumption that the dash display is a "false reading" is somehow gospel? That again is hilarious, especially when those posting shots of the monitor HAVE done the hand calcs and KNOW what the error is, some have even made the correction making the dash display at least as accurate as Fuelly.

You are right about mine being a "false reading" though, the truck in fact gets about 0.5 mpg BETTER than the dash display in my truck but you continue to want to discount data that doesn't support YOUR claim. I have been checking my mileage off and on now in this truck for over 30k miles. It gets 16 mpg+ on a regular basis despite it not fitting into your program. I have proof to back it up too but you would find a way to discount that as well I am sure because again, it doesn't suit your narrative.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RidgwaySD
So your assumption that the dash display is a "false reading" is somehow gospel? That again is hilarious, especially when those posting shots of the monitor HAVE done the hand calcs and KNOW what the error is, some have even made the correction making the dash display at least as accurate as Fuelly.

You are right about mine being a "false reading" though, the truck in fact gets about 0.5 mpg BETTER than the dash display in my truck but you continue to want to discount data that doesn't support YOUR claim. I have been checking my mileage off and on now in this truck for over 30k miles. It gets 16 mpg+ on a regular basis despite it not fitting into your program. I have proof to back it up too but you would find a way to discount that as well I am sure because again, it doesn't suit your narrative.

Well good for you. Another EXCEPTION to the NORM. Again 100 trucks, maybe 5 will have your MPG, the rest WILL be 12-14. If the OP takes 2 peoples word out of the tens of thousands of trucks in use today and finds out he is getting 12 MPG instead of the golden 16 MPG, how do you think he would feel? I'm being honest with the OP, more than likely if he buys a 7.3 he will see between 12 and 14 MPG. He could potentially get 16 MPG, but more than likely will see what the average is for that engine.

If/When I get a new 2022 6.7, I could potentially see 20 MPG driving it like I drive the F150, but I am also realistic and feel the true MPG will be more in the 16-18 MPG range.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Grass Lake Ron
Jim,

If you drive conservative you could get 18 or better from a 250 with a 7.3 and 3.55s. ya, it's no 150 but I would never go back to a half ton after my 350. Even with $6 gas, I love it. I know you will too.
No chance of 18 here unless you're on a perfectly flat highway, or going downhill all the time with the wind at your back, don't set him up for disappointment with MPG with his 250. You're the only one I've seen claiming to get such great numbers, you've found the unicorn truck apparently.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 09:50 AM
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The main variable in all of this is speed. These trucks have all the aerodynamics of the broad side of a barn; wind resistance increases exponentially vs.speed. The loss of efficiency between 75 and 80 is massive compared to the loss of efficiency between 60 and 65. TLDR; go slower and see exponential increases in your fuel mileage.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 10:30 AM
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Well good for you. Another EXCEPTION to the NORM. Again 100 trucks, maybe 5 will have your MPG, the rest WILL be 12-14. If the OP takes 2 peoples word out of the tens of thousands of trucks in use today and finds out he is getting 12 MPG instead of the golden 16 MPG, how do you think he would feel? I'm being honest with the OP, more than likely if he buys a 7.3 he will see between 12 and 14 MPG. He could potentially get 16 MPG, but more than likely will see what the average is for that engine.

If/When I get a new 2022 6.7, I could potentially see 20 MPG driving it like I drive the F150, but I am also realistic and feel the true MPG will be more in the 16-18 MPG range.
Seems to me there are half a dozen other posters in this thread with similar false reporting issues. You keep trying to minimize it based on Fuelly reports... Keep digging that hole, anybody paying attention can see the truth. The OP asked about driving conditions largely similar to mine, not to Fuelly's I couldn't get 12-14 empty if I tried but yeah the tens of thousands of trucks you do not have data for surely follow your flawed opinion
 
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Old Jun 10, 2022 | 10:34 AM
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Looks to me like over half of the 52 respondents in this poll are beating the claimed 12-14 mpg average... but yeah I am sure there are only two of us... https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-mpg-poll.html
 
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