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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 10:38 AM
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Somewhere I saw a post about a rear facing blinker light that makes it difficult to see out the mirrors at night.

That would be real ugly in the rain at night, especially with a trailer behind me.

One problem with having a commercial vehicle is that EVERY light you have installed HAS to work, so no disconnecting a light if it's annoying.

I'm on the fence between the 2017 or 2008 style. Do both mirrors have rear facing blinker (or indicator) that causes issues with vision at night. If it's an indicator under the mirror surface, can it be disconnected?

If it's below the surface and the officer cannot see a separate light fixture to check it would be OK to disconnect... if that's possible.

I thought about ordering one set of each and try them on my F450 project and use the one I like least on my daily driver. Problem with that is I have 2 sets of perfectly fine XL towing mirrors.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rot Box 2
Thanks for all the help you guys. I decided on the 08 style and already they are a huge improvement over what I had. Just went with the Amazon specials and they came with a sweet adapter plug so they’re powered. I’m not going to wire in the heaters or lights because I’m not smart enough to figure out how to do it lol.

I figure they’re easy enough to change if they end up being crappy.
I didn't wire mine up either, so you are in good company... Or, bad company... Either way, you are not alone.

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Somewhere I saw a post about a rear facing blinker light that makes it difficult to see out the mirrors at night.

That would be real ugly in the rain at night, especially with a trailer behind me.

One problem with having a commercial vehicle is that EVERY light you have installed HAS to work, so no disconnecting a light if it's annoying.

I'm on the fence between the 2017 or 2008 style. Do both mirrors have rear facing blinker (or indicator) that causes issues with vision at night. If it's an indicator under the mirror surface, can it be disconnected?

If it's below the surface and the officer cannot see a separate light fixture to check it would be OK to disconnect... if that's possible.

I thought about ordering one set of each and try them on my F450 project and use the one I like least on my daily driver. Problem with that is I have 2 sets of perfectly fine XL towing mirrors.
Perhaps here...
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Sous, I’ve installed (4) sets of those AERDM mirrors now and I really like them - except - the turn lights in the glass/mirror are BLINDING at night..... Can’t use turn signal and mirror at the same time.
Quote source = https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post20469730

The blinkers on my mirrors are smoked and more side and front facing, but I suppose a bit may be rearward facing. As I mentioned earlier, I didn't wire them up, so no bother to me. The blinker does not need to be disconnected if the mirror has one as they were not wired like that from the factory. The owner must install a new circuit from the existing turn signal circuits to the mirrors if the integrated turn signal is going to be utilized.

I like the 2008 mirrors a lot better than the 2000 mirrors, but I like the look (aesthetically) and the larger convex mirror of the 2017 mirrors. Similar to you Joel, I adjust my mirror so that the top of the flat mirror is just above the horizon line by an inch or two when on flat ground. This is the angle I have found to be most useful for my tastes and towing the 5th wheel.




 
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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by runningman777
Somewhere I saw a post about a rear facing blinker light that makes it difficult to see out the mirrors at night.

That would be real ugly in the rain at night, especially with a trailer behind me.

One problem with having a commercial vehicle is that EVERY light you have installed HAS to work, so no disconnecting a light if it's annoying.

I'm on the fence between the 2017 or 2008 style. Do both mirrors have rear facing blinker (or indicator) that causes issues with vision at night. If it's an indicator under the mirror surface, can it be disconnected?

If it's below the surface and the officer cannot see a separate light fixture to check it would be OK to disconnect... if that's possible.

I thought about ordering one set of each and try them on my F450 project and use the one I like least on my daily driver. Problem with that is I have 2 sets of perfectly fine XL towing mirrors.
The rear facing turn signal lights on mine are built into the glass mirror itself. You cant see it until it lights up. It is bright but doesn't bother me at night. I have tinted windows also which helps.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2022 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sous
I didn't wire mine up either, so you are in good company... Or, bad company... Either way, you are not alone.



Perhaps here...

Quote source = https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post20469730

The blinkers on my mirrors are smoked and more side and front facing, but I suppose a bit may be rearward facing. As I mentioned earlier, I didn't wire them up, so no bother to me. The blinker does not need to be disconnected if the mirror has one as they were not wired like that from the factory. The owner must install a new circuit from the existing turn signal circuits to the mirrors if the integrated turn signal is going to be utilized.

I like the 2008 mirrors a lot better than the 2000 mirrors, but I like the look (aesthetically) and the larger convex mirror of the 2017 mirrors. Similar to you Joel, I adjust my mirror so that the top of the flat mirror is just above the horizon line by an inch or two when on flat ground. This is the angle I have found to be most useful for my tastes and towing the 5th wheel.
Thanks Sous! I knew I had just read that but I was searching the mirror thread.

I'll ask Jason more specific questions about that...
 
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Old Jul 10, 2022 | 07:39 PM
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I purchased these from A1 Auto. They are the folding style that makes it easier to get into the garage. No issues so far.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2022 | 05:32 AM
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@red saleen More details about your install please!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2022 | 05:24 PM
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Sorry, I purchased them from1A Auto parts. If you go to their site it has an installation video. They fold, have the directional and running lights and can be wired for the heated mirrors. They manually extend for towing.
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 02:18 PM
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I started installing my new mirrors a few days ago, but keep getting distracted so I decided to only worry about the mirror adjustment wires for now.

Glad to confirm that the Ford schematics do indeed list the correct colors. And no, I twisted the wires together first until I tested it rather than to waste a butt splice as I did not order the adapter harness.

The ones I bought were the Akkon mirrors for 99 - 07 Superdutys. Below is the Amazon link.

AKKON - For 99-07 Ford Super Duty AKKON - For 99-07 Ford Super Duty



Pardon the dirty glass and the viewing angle maybe not being perfect as a passenger has to take the picture seeing how it would be just so wrong for me to do it while driving...

My adjustment switch was not working so I robbed the one from my other truck to get it adjusted. Once they are adjusted to my liking, I'll put the switch back into the other truck.

Overall I am extremely pleased with the view, especially the lower portion which would be my main focus as it see's everything including the rear tires. Makes backing into parking spots a snap!

I will run some temporary wiring to test the lights and verify if they will bother me at night before installing a set on my hotshot truck. As I've said before, EVERY installed light HAS to work on a commercial vehicle. I may just install a relay to activate the operation of the lights for "inspection" mode.
I will also add a lighted switch for the mirror heat. A timer would be nice, but I would rarely need the heat so I'll stick to... yeah, you guessed it CHEAP lol!

One other thing I noticed is that these mirrors stick out further than the stock towing mirrors for the 99 trucks - yet another reason to upgrade!
 
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 04:46 PM
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I will also add a lighted switch for the mirror heat. A timer would be nice, but I would rarely need the heat so I'll stick to... yeah, you guessed it CHEAP lol!
I have read of some that have used a mid-90's Explorer rear window defroster switch for mirror heat. They are a close OEM match, have the timer built into the switch assembly, and are dirt cheap if you can find them used (eBay, etc.).

You would have to find the matching connector or just use some small spade tabs to connect it to the truck.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 04:57 PM
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I have read of some that have used a mid-90's Explorer rear window defroster switch for mirror heat. They are a close OEM match, have the timer built into the switch assembly, and are dirt cheap if you can find them used (eBay, etc.).

You would have to find the matching connector or just use some small spade tabs to connect it to the truck.
That's good to know! I had a 98 Mountaineer until I started buying up powerstrokes. Had 4 on the road at one time with the Mountaineer parked in the garage.

95, 96 and two 99's.

With insurance and plates on all of them and I drove a service van home from work every day.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 05:10 PM
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I used the Excursion switch panel...

 
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Old Jul 29, 2022 | 05:44 PM
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I used the Excursion switch panel...
My daily driver and hotshot truck are both 4WD with ESOF so that location is taken.

My F450 project truck however, has a manual transfer case so the switch location is available but right under that is the 5 upfitter switches I installed.

I could probably fit the switch by itself next to the ESOF switch though...
 
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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 07:05 AM
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We had been told the 2017 lower mirror is a big improvement over the 2008 lower mirror. I believe this is the first driver's seat view I have seen.

I would say there is a good 30% increase in field of view from the lower mirror. I really like the 2008 over the OEM, but the 2017 is really nice in the function category.

These have been moved up my list of "things to buy". Thanks for sharing the images with us Joel.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Sous
We had been told the 2017 lower mirror is a big improvement over the 2008 lower mirror. I believe this is the first driver's seat view I have seen.

I would say there is a good 30% increase in field of view from the lower mirror. I really like the 2008 over the OEM, but the 2017 is really nice in the function category.

These have been moved up my list of "things to buy". Thanks for sharing the images with us Joel.
I'm seriously contemplating moving this set to my hotshot truck. Those lower mirrors are a total game changer!

I've only taken a quick trip down the road a few miles and for country roads, the top mirrors are not even needed. I expect them to become an asset when there's a wide trailer behind you.

My rough measurements indicate that the outside edges stick out around 2 inches further than the OEM towing mirrors which will give much more visibility behind wide trailers.

By the way, these images are with the mirrors close in, not extended. If I move them to my hotshot truck, I'll get images of towing my 30' X 8.5' GN trailer - hopefully with a load to show their effectiveness where they are needed the most.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by runningman777
I'm seriously contemplating moving this set to my hotshot truck. Those lower mirrors are a total game changer!

I've only taken a quick trip down the road a few miles and for country roads, the top mirrors are not even needed. I expect them to become an asset when there's a wide trailer behind you.

My rough measurements indicate that the outside edges stick out around 2 inches further than the OEM towing mirrors which will give much more visibility behind wide trailers.

By the way, these images are with the mirrors close in, not extended. If I move them to my hotshot truck, I'll get images of towing my 30' X 8.5' GN trailer - hopefully with a load to show their effectiveness where they are needed the most.
I hadn't noticed they were in the retracted position. I like them even more now.

Are you planning to do a "review or install" video and post it on your YouTube channel?
 
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