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Old Apr 25, 2022 | 02:48 PM
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Rag Joint

I'm surprised I haven't noticed this before, but my rag joint ain't lookin' good.



I see what look like rebuilt kits with new rubber, bolts, and fresh pins, but what about the splined end on the steering shaft? That's all wallowed out too.

I also found these ...



I do see those parts on joints that are more complete. They've got the spline that goes on the box anyway. But I'm not knowing what they're for. Could that be why the horn doesn't work?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2022 | 03:07 PM
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The original rag joints did have a ground strap that connected one side to the other and provided the ground path for the horn. Yours does look pretty worn at the pin that I can see. The splines being wallowed out isn't a good sign either. Is the steering shaft itself affected at the flange or just the joint?

 
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Old Apr 25, 2022 | 03:36 PM
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Both splines are intact and were well rusted in place. No movement there. It's the flange that goes onto the steering shaft that should have slots for the pins that's all wallowed out.



I think I can fix that side by building up the sides with my welder and then using my little mill, (aka Mr. Nibbles), to get the slots tight again.

Good to know about the ground for the horn and Thank You for that. One my goals is to have the truck fully functional.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2022 | 03:52 PM
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It's gonna be less expensive to weld and mill than this, but just making you aware it's out there.

NOS Ford c5tz-3524 h steering shaft RARE Truck | eBay

 
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Old Apr 26, 2022 | 04:19 AM
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Those pins and slots are only there as a failsafe. As long as the big and little bolt holes aren't wallowed out a new rag joint will fix that just fine. The pins and slots never make contact with a good rag joint. They are only there as a backup in case the rubber fails as yours did.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2022 | 09:40 AM
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Here's a thread from a ways back. Borgeson makes a repair kit for the rag part, but you'll still need to fire up Mr. Nibbles


https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...rag-joint.html

https://www.borgeson.com/Rubber-Rag-...-Diameter.html
 
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Old Apr 26, 2022 | 11:45 AM
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Having some trouble with the flange on the end of the steering shaft. I started with PB and heat yesterday thinking overnight would do it ... but I was wrong. Now I'm using a homemade puller but all that's doing is tweaking a pair of 5/16 bolts!



Am I missing something?
 
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Old Apr 26, 2022 | 12:01 PM
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If I recall correctly, the shaft is grooved where the bolt goes, so it has to be removed, not just loosened. But it has been a loooong time since I've had one apart....
 
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Originally Posted by pntrbl
Having some trouble with the flange on the end of the steering shaft. I started with PB and heat yesterday thinking overnight would do it ... but I was wrong. Now I'm using a homemade puller but all that's doing is tweaking a pair of 5/16 bolts!



Am I missing something?
STOP!!! That is not removable!!! The shaft is splined but the flange is pressed on and the end of the shaft upset to keep it in place. Like I said if the two holes are still good don't worry about the slots. Otherwise use Chads link and buy a new shaft.
 
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Steering shaft

Here is a picture of an old one I have that was ruined by being driven with a bad lower bearing. The only way to remove that flange is to put it in a lathe and machine the upset off of the end. And I'm not sure it would come off even then. At any rate the only way to put it back on would be to weld it.

 
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Old Apr 26, 2022 | 01:37 PM
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Well I'm glad I asked and Thank You very much for the swift response! It's just gonna have to live right where it's at with the worn slots. I thought it was just rust .....
 
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Rag joint https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...g+coupler,7418
 
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I got a generic kit from the Help! section at autozone. Easy install. Works great. A few extra parts for other applications.
 
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