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Old Apr 19, 2022 | 09:18 AM
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TorquePro. Which is how I'm monitoring injector pulse width.
I was also getting high FIPW spikes from Torque Pro same as you. Truck seemed to be running fine at the time, so I tried Forscan to monitor and the spiking was gone. I just thought it was a TP issue.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2022 | 06:22 PM
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Update:

Swapped in the 238s this weekend and got some 1023 tunes for them. Need to try out the tunes a bit more but I liked what I saw on the drive home from work. Plugged the ICP back in, no more rough idle when warm, nice and smooth as any 7.3 I've been in.

I am, however, still getting that effing pulse width spike Long story short, I used to own this truck, sold it, bought it back and rebuilt it. When I owned it the first time I could monitor everything with TP and there were never any pulse width spikes. I still have the same PIDs and everything setup from way back as well as the same Bluetooth dongle, so nothing has changed there. Could a defective CPS cause this issue? Since I plan on keeping the truck for a while now, I am saving up to buy an AE, hopefully that will shed some light. Again, further thoughts and discussion is appreciated gents
 
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Old Apr 25, 2022 | 07:06 PM
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Drop TorquePro like it is a hot rock. AE is good, but you can do 99% of what AE can do for free with a Windows laptop or $5 with a tablet or smartphone via FORScan or FORScan Lite.

See the links below, paying special attention to the Q&A.

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Old Apr 26, 2022 | 12:12 AM
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I would get Forscan and a dongle and re-check the situation. AE is $$$ for a $ burger.

MFDES is worth looking at. If the IPW is actually spiking I think it would be reflected there.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2022 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by WRA1TH
Update:

Swapped in the 238s this weekend and got some 1023 tunes for them. Need to try out the tunes a bit more but I liked what I saw on the drive home from work. Plugged the ICP back in, no more rough idle when warm, nice and smooth as any 7.3 I've been in.

I am, however, still getting that effing pulse width spike Long story short, I used to own this truck, sold it, bought it back and rebuilt it. When I owned it the first time I could monitor everything with TP and there were never any pulse width spikes. I still have the same PIDs and everything setup from way back as well as the same Bluetooth dongle, so nothing has changed there. Could a defective CPS cause this issue? Since I plan on keeping the truck for a while now, I am saving up to buy an AE, hopefully that will shed some light. Again, further thoughts and discussion is appreciated gents
Just because it used to work does not mean it is working now, especially when part of the truck’s history was out of your hands and now parts have been changed. Trying out FORScan is a relatively cheap troubleshooting step as opposed to swapping out other hardware. Sticking with a diagnostic tool that is questionable at best (i.e. TorquePro) can lead you down a wrong and very expensive rabbit hole.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2022 | 09:04 PM
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Thanks guys. I really do appreciate the level of information flow on this forum. I'll get FORscan setup in the next couple days and see what it says. I cant believe it slipped under my radar a couple years ago when I was looking at diagnostics tools...

The truck is running better than it ever has before. 1023 tunes, FF 238/80s, RR 4x4 + KC 300 + 360* turbo setup. Going to need a BTS or SW trans soon at this rate
 
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Old Apr 26, 2022 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sous
Drop TorquePro like it is a hot rock. AE is good, but you can do 99% of what AE can do for free with a Windows laptop or $5 with a tablet or smartphone via FORScan or FORScan Lite.

See the links below, paying special attention to the Q&A.

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Damn Sous, I owe you a cold beer.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2022 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by WRA1TH
Damn Sous, I owe you a cold beer.
No worries sir! I only try to repay the favors, lessons learned and wisdom that has been passed along over the years of hanging out here.

We all hope you receive good news from FORScan soon.
 
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Old May 15, 2022 | 10:55 PM
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Sorry its been a minute between updates guys, been working on my brother's rig and also just finished replacing timing chains etc on the wife's 5.4, so I haven't had any time to work on my rig until this afternoon There is a special division setup in hell for everyone who ever had their hand in engineering that motor and everything about the '04-'08 F-150s... seriously, the engineering there was just sloppy, if not borderline negligent. Like a whole class of high schoolers got asked to asked to take a heroic dose of shrooms and then figure out the worst ****ing designs possible for everything and they channeled Lucifer himself to guide their demented ways..... I digress. But I'll never complain about working on anything on my truck again after that.


Got FORScan going today, I still need to figure out where most things are located on there and how to set them up, but I got gages setup for FIPW, ICP, IPR duty cycle and EOT. FIPW is perfect, no spikes or anything so that's a relief now knowing I don't have something screwy going on. Think I might need to change out my IPR though, I've been having bad fuel knock, exhaust haze, and shaky idle when its cold. Runs like a top when it's warm. Anyways, many thanks for everyone that chimed in, especially Sous for the links for FORScan. The people on this forum really are some damn good guys.
 
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Torque pro pulse width was jumping between 1.9 -46K at idle in my 7.3,,,,,,I hooked up to forscan and sat at 2.7 with 180/100's
 
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