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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 01:39 PM
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2003 no Turbo boost

Good evening Gentlemen,
2003 F350 144K has no turbo boost (and no turbo wistle idling and driving). No Turbo boost DTCs. Baro + MAP 14-15psi KOEO and under load, no turbo boost. The MAP sensor hose nipple on the intake manifold is ok. I need to replace the pigtail on the turbo actuator, but as far as I know the polarity doesn't matter, it was just the individual wires plugged into the actuator without a connector.
How can I test the turbo actuator and MAP sensor?
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 04:59 PM
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Did you check to see if the nipple on the intake manifold was clear (not plugged)?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 05:04 PM
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Yes, I ckecked it. I am surprised that no turbo code was set.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 05:14 PM
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That is interesting.

Can you get about 20 psi in an air tank and hook up the MAP hose to it?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 05:24 PM
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Good idea my friend.
will try this tomorrow (here its 11.30PM)
Thank you!

Do you have an idea how to check the turbo actuator?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 05:27 PM
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I have to read up on that every time. My memory just ticks me off sometimes.

I'll post what I have in a bit.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 08:30 PM
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6.0L POWER STROKE VGT SOLENOID REPLACEMENT & DIAGNOSTICS PROCEDURES

The VGT solenoid ultimately controls the position of the vanes in the variable geometry turbine housing. Excessive turbocharger lag and overall poor turbocharger performance are typically signs that the VGT system is not functioning properly. A failed solenoid defaults to the open position, making it difficult to build boost. However, it is just as likely (and more common) for the unison ring and vanes in the variable geometry turbine housing to become caked with exhaust grime and fail to move to the commanded position.

Applicable Model Years: 2003 - 2007 6.0L Power Stroke
Garrett GT3782VA VGT solenoid:
Garrett 792593-0001
High Temperature Nickel Anti-seize: Motorcraft XL-2

To test a VGT solenoid, measure the resistance across the VGT solenoid coil with a digital multimeter (remove the connector to expose two male pins). The resistance across the solenoid coil should be between 3.42 & 4.18 Ω when engine oil temperature (EOT) is at 73° F. If the resistance reading is out of spec, the solenoid needs to be replaced. Keep in mind that it is much more common to experience stuck/sticking VGT components than it is a faulty VGT solenoid, both of which will hinder turbocharger performance and possibly throw turbocharger related DTCs.

I think these attachments will help
 
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Old Mar 26, 2022 | 08:38 PM
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Thank you, will report tomorrow.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bismic
6.0L POWER STROKE VGT SOLENOID REPLACEMENT & DIAGNOSTICS PROCEDURES

The VGT solenoid ultimately controls the position of the vanes in the variable geometry turbine housing. Excessive turbocharger lag and overall poor turbocharger performance are typically signs that the VGT system is not functioning properly. A failed solenoid defaults to the open position, making it difficult to build boost. However, it is just as likely (and more common) for the unison ring and vanes in the variable geometry turbine housing to become caked with exhaust grime and fail to move to the commanded position.

Applicable Model Years: 2003 - 2007 6.0L Power Stroke
Garrett GT3782VA VGT solenoid:
Garrett 792593-0001
High Temperature Nickel Anti-seize: Motorcraft XL-2

To test a VGT solenoid, measure the resistance across the VGT solenoid coil with a digital multimeter (remove the connector to expose two male pins). The resistance across the solenoid coil should be between 3.42 & 4.18 Ω when engine oil temperature (EOT) is at 73° F. If the resistance reading is out of spec, the solenoid needs to be replaced. Keep in mind that it is much more common to experience stuck/sticking VGT components than it is a faulty VGT solenoid, both of which will hinder turbocharger performance and possibly throw turbocharger related DTCs.

I think these attachments will help

I have measured the resistance at the turbo actuator. 4 Ohms are displayed, which should pass.







I have checked these 3 sensors KOEO:
MAPsensor shows 14,4 psi
Baro shows 14,6 psi
EBP shows 0 psi, unfortunately also with new sensor.

I applied 30psi air pressure to the MAP sensor, it responds (please apologize for the poor focus):




EBP sensor unfortunately does not respond :

 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 04:11 PM
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the EBP sensor values should, to my knowledge, be the same as MAP and BARO at KOEO.
I still have a P0113 code (IAT).
Can this fault have to do with my problem?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2022 | 04:43 PM
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I don't think so. What is your IAT value KOEO?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2022 | 07:02 AM
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I don't think so. What is your IAT value KOEO?
Do you see an issue on these numbers (numbers are ⁰Celsius)


 
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Old Mar 28, 2022 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bismic
I don't think so. What is your IAT value KOEO?
IAT / IAT2 is 14/18 ⁰Celsius KOEO
 
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Old Mar 28, 2022 | 03:06 PM
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They seem to be a bit off, but probably not bad.

As far as EBP goes, I should have noticed it was an '03. The '03 PCM doesn't use the EBP ..... assuming it received (almost all of them did get it) the flash update in 2006.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2022 | 03:47 PM
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Did you figure it out, Hartwig?
 
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