6.0 too loud after reprogramming
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From: nc
Originally posted by SRUPP
MN60..I"had "a great running truck no romps no dead pedal good milage..22 on the highway WHEN taking it easy....my sob dealer REFLASHED the truck without my permission or knowledge..was i pissed!!!! so I have them replacing my "module from one that still had the split injection and no other problems..and they will keep my current one for a couple of weeks to see if IM happy...if not the original reflashed one goes back in and I will be dealing with west coast Ford rep me ,our my LAYWER...
new problems since this unauthorized reflash..
- poorer milage
- much louder
- vibration @ idle
-slightly longer ignition starting
- smell of diesel in cab on start-up...too rich setting?
- still smokes on cold startups
still have trans leak
still have wandering problems
NOT what I expect for $ 60 K Canadian
2003 KING RANCH CREW SRW
MN60..I"had "a great running truck no romps no dead pedal good milage..22 on the highway WHEN taking it easy....my sob dealer REFLASHED the truck without my permission or knowledge..was i pissed!!!! so I have them replacing my "module from one that still had the split injection and no other problems..and they will keep my current one for a couple of weeks to see if IM happy...if not the original reflashed one goes back in and I will be dealing with west coast Ford rep me ,our my LAYWER...
new problems since this unauthorized reflash..
- poorer milage
- much louder
- vibration @ idle
-slightly longer ignition starting
- smell of diesel in cab on start-up...too rich setting?
- still smokes on cold startups
still have trans leak
still have wandering problems
NOT what I expect for $ 60 K Canadian
2003 KING RANCH CREW SRW
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From: Boiling Springs,S.C.
The new flash is louder- I'm just now getting use to the sound! Does anyone think ford will give back the pilot injection?
2003may08 build on motor ,cc, 4x4, running great before and after flash , now just a little louder(
2003may08 build on motor ,cc, 4x4, running great before and after flash , now just a little louder(
Last edited by greendiesel; Nov 11, 2003 at 02:21 AM.
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From: New Orleans
Had fuel in the oil due to bad injuector. They fixed and everything o.k. 3000 miles later the truck stoped running. Auto shut off because it was low on oil. Yes it smoked and I think it burned all of the oil out of the crank because of engine damage when the injector went bad.
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From: PA
Funny I had my computer reflashed and yes it does seem louder.
Weird I thought it was but did not want to bitch about it thinking maybe I am nuts etc...
Wish I knew it before I may have just lived with the blue puff etc...
Reason why I bough the truck was it is quieter over the 7.3 Any idea how to tell what rev the computer is flashed with? Rather than guess?
Sterring does semm sloppy, all over drifts left to right etc... Darn I hate to trade in a 2 month old truck!
Weird I thought it was but did not want to bitch about it thinking maybe I am nuts etc...
Wish I knew it before I may have just lived with the blue puff etc...
Reason why I bough the truck was it is quieter over the 7.3 Any idea how to tell what rev the computer is flashed with? Rather than guess?
Sterring does semm sloppy, all over drifts left to right etc... Darn I hate to trade in a 2 month old truck!
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From: 3rd Rock
Originally posted by mn 6.0
I just want what I paid for! The truck that Ford advertised as being "quiet". Not one that after the purchase they say "oops, we were just kidding about that quiet thing. After all, you bought a diesel what were you expecting?".Truck just turned 2,000 mi, checked oil when new, was half way between add & full. Checked again @ 1,000 mi. same thing checked @ 1,800 still good. checked @2,000 mi. 2 days after flash, looks to be about 3 quarts over full. Called dealer to ask what I thought was stupid smart mouth question "My truck seems to have way more oil in it than it should, can I keep driving it?". They are going to call me back & let me know! I'm guessing this is just raw fuel, & where else could could it come from but past the rings & down the cylinder walls.NO GOOD! I've e-mailed Bullydog to see if they have any answers, no reply yet. Test drove a Dodge 1500 Hemi last night (can you tell I'm fet-up with this 6.0 & diesels in general )It was o.k. but could not compare to what I have now, I'm not quite that fet-up yet. That's just my opinion so any Dodge fans out there just settle down!! Still waiting for Ford Rep to call, they said it would be within 3 days, today is day 3. Oh, as far as the duramax goes, are the still blowing the heads off of them? or did they fix that little problem.
I just want what I paid for! The truck that Ford advertised as being "quiet". Not one that after the purchase they say "oops, we were just kidding about that quiet thing. After all, you bought a diesel what were you expecting?".Truck just turned 2,000 mi, checked oil when new, was half way between add & full. Checked again @ 1,000 mi. same thing checked @ 1,800 still good. checked @2,000 mi. 2 days after flash, looks to be about 3 quarts over full. Called dealer to ask what I thought was stupid smart mouth question "My truck seems to have way more oil in it than it should, can I keep driving it?". They are going to call me back & let me know! I'm guessing this is just raw fuel, & where else could could it come from but past the rings & down the cylinder walls.NO GOOD! I've e-mailed Bullydog to see if they have any answers, no reply yet. Test drove a Dodge 1500 Hemi last night (can you tell I'm fet-up with this 6.0 & diesels in general )It was o.k. but could not compare to what I have now, I'm not quite that fet-up yet. That's just my opinion so any Dodge fans out there just settle down!! Still waiting for Ford Rep to call, they said it would be within 3 days, today is day 3. Oh, as far as the duramax goes, are the still blowing the heads off of them? or did they fix that little problem.
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From: Florida
When i go to the dealer for my "free oil change" i gonna stand over the truck like a mother hen and make damn sure they do not reflash my computer. I like the quiet pilot injection mode. I know what the truck sounds like noisy in the mornings when it is cold and the pilot injection is not engaged. The truck has been good so far. Can not help to wonder though why Ford changed the turbo charger in August of 2003 (if i am correct here). Any replies to this would be appreciatled.
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From: Central Texas
I was just sitting here in this forum thinking about how the pilot injection removal resulted in some increase in sound of my 6.0L when my neighbor started up his Dodge which is 75' away on the other side of some trees. Now I am not so distressed about my 6.0 noise increase. My wife still doesn't hear my 6.0 when I pull in the driveway.
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It seems that Ford is causing some of the problems by trying to satisfy the expectations of the general public.
A few of these people obviously have legitimate problems. Most are related to noise, steering and mileage. To people who don't like the noise, trade it for a Caddy or Lincoln. Diesels make noise, all of them. To the people who complain about the steering, pitman arm steering is not rack and pinion. Go back to your Honda Accord. Those who complain about the mileage, get your foot out of the turbo or buy a smaller vehicle.
This Ford diesel is the best ever and I've driven nearly all of them since 1960. These are 3/4 ton or better trucks. Very refined, but still trucks. Diesels require more maintenance, and a thinking operator. If they were easy to live with, the manufacturers would never sell a gasoline vehicle.
A few of these people obviously have legitimate problems. Most are related to noise, steering and mileage. To people who don't like the noise, trade it for a Caddy or Lincoln. Diesels make noise, all of them. To the people who complain about the steering, pitman arm steering is not rack and pinion. Go back to your Honda Accord. Those who complain about the mileage, get your foot out of the turbo or buy a smaller vehicle.
This Ford diesel is the best ever and I've driven nearly all of them since 1960. These are 3/4 ton or better trucks. Very refined, but still trucks. Diesels require more maintenance, and a thinking operator. If they were easy to live with, the manufacturers would never sell a gasoline vehicle.
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I had fuel in the oil and the dealership replaced the o-rings on the injectors. A couple of months later, the engine died traveling down the hiway. This time the dealership replaced two injectors but refused to replace the remaining six , said Ford would not authorize replacing the six old injectors even though the very same injectors were recalled off the shelf at the service departments. These faulty injectors should be replaced, not only because they make the truck unreliable, but a truck that will die going down the hiway and will not restart is dangerous. I will not let my wife or daughters drive this truck as long as the old injectors are in this truck. Thats a shame for a 35,000 dollar truck.
The build date of my F250 is Jan 03.
The build date of my F250 is Jan 03.
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From: 3rd Rock
Originally posted by john coulter
I had fuel in the oil and the dealership replaced the o-rings on the injectors. A couple of months later, the engine died traveling down the hiway. This time the dealership replaced two injectors but refused to replace the remaining six , said Ford would not authorize replacing the six old injectors even though the very same injectors were recalled off the shelf at the service departments. These faulty injectors should be replaced, not only because they make the truck unreliable, but a truck that will die going down the hiway and will not restart is dangerous. I will not let my wife or daughters drive this truck as long as the old injectors are in this truck. Thats a shame for a 35,000 dollar truck.
The build date of my F250 is Jan 03.
I had fuel in the oil and the dealership replaced the o-rings on the injectors. A couple of months later, the engine died traveling down the hiway. This time the dealership replaced two injectors but refused to replace the remaining six , said Ford would not authorize replacing the six old injectors even though the very same injectors were recalled off the shelf at the service departments. These faulty injectors should be replaced, not only because they make the truck unreliable, but a truck that will die going down the hiway and will not restart is dangerous. I will not let my wife or daughters drive this truck as long as the old injectors are in this truck. Thats a shame for a 35,000 dollar truck.
The build date of my F250 is Jan 03.
In addition, please read more instructions, bottom of first page, posted by Tim L
It is IMPORTANT to match problem with odometer reading, the simpler the writing (posting)
of “problem/odometer” reading………….the easier it will be to collate. Do not need many words.
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