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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 12:32 PM
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Valve spring issue.

Hey all, I have installed gt40p heads with the trick flow spring kit on my 351w. I have the stock cam also. Anyone have a problem with the stock rocker arm hitting the valve spring retainer? I have been fighting valvetrain noise and got it narrowed down to this. There are slight wear marks on the rocker arm as well from the retainer. Any input?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 03:30 AM
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Something isn't right. Lets see some pictures.
Either the rocker sits too low on pedestal, valve stem is too long, or you got the wrong retainers.

Did the heads come with valves, springs and rockers?
Have they been converted to accept stud mounted rockers?
What size rocker bolt, 3/8" or 7/16"?


 
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 03:41 AM
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Why are you upgrading the valve springs?

From some more googling:
- have the heads been shaved?
- have the valve seats been ground?

The TFS retainers and or locks are the incorrect ones.
There are different locks for exhaust and intake, make sure those aren't mixed up.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 09:00 AM
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The exhaust side has the keeper location about .100 shorter so if they are providing 2 retainers to allow you to have the same installed height on the intake and the exhaust then some might be mixed up as suggested by wwhite.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 11:20 AM
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After closer inspection I do have clearance. I can slip a piece of paper between them. Still don't know what my noise is though.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 03:18 PM
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Before you installed the springs, did you measure the height from spring seat to spring retainer using the supplied height gauge?
Spec should be something like:
- The supplied gauge is 1.800” tall; correct installed height should be 1.800” +-.015”.
- Use the appropriate shim to adjust the installed height if needed.

If space is larger, you should have put shims in. If the space is larger and you did not put shims in, there's your noise, and possibility of dropping a valve.



 
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 07:13 PM
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My Machinist did the heads. The installed heights are right on. I need to figure out how to send a video.
 
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Originally Posted by Mmarty71
My Machinist did the heads.
What did the machinist do to the heads?
Is the machinist also the engine builder?
Originally Posted by Mmarty71
There are slight wear marks on the rocker arm as well from the retainer. Any input?
Have you asked the machinist?
What do they say?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2022 | 08:51 AM
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Does anyone have any experience with proform roller rockers? Are they any good?
 
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Originally Posted by Mmarty71
Does anyone have any experience with proform roller rockers? Are they any good?
Does this have anything to do with your current valve spring issue?
If not, start a new thread as you will get a lot more traffic, and more replies.

 
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It kinda does. I've set preload at 3/4 turn to torque and it still rattles but not all of them do it. Lifters are pumping up good also. I'm running a stock cam and have been thinking of 1.73 roller rockers.
 
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Originally Posted by Mmarty71
it still rattles but not all of them do it.
Meaning one rocker on intake or exhaust rattles?
Bent push rod?
Is this a flat tappet cam? Flattened lobe?
 
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Update. I got the dirty hag to be quiet. I found the offending rocker and when I put pressure on it with a rubber hammer while running. I then proceeded to play with a bucket of arms/pedestals til I found one that would make it quiet. Good to go now.
 
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