Just an fyi for everyone like myself with trucks on order, our rep came in to talk to us about super duty’s today. He said if you picked a spray in, tonneau cover, or adaptive steering your truck will not be built with those options. Furthermore he’s unsure if any of the current orders will be built at all. I presume their is a cut off so maybe he means from today going forward. He said that 22s not completed can be rolled to a 23 which supposedly only has an interior styling change.

 

Thanks for the info. But that’s a bit vague?
So the thousands of trucks in que that have been ordered get turned away?

or does this mean everyone hat don’t have a build date as of now. Their truck will become a 2023?

 

he kept it vague. He only got specific when he said he can’t guarantee all of the 22s will be built.

 

Boy I sure hope so. Already bought the brush guard, tailgate dampener, and a slew of other things. Would suck if the interior changes make me unable to use the console fridge I bought.

 

Why are the test mules all camo'd out if no exterior change?

 

They wouldn't get any press coverage if they didn't look like they were trying to hide something.

 

I bet the there are front end changes. Grill, headlights, bumper. But that's it for the exterior. Just my guess.

 

The vehicle manufacturing problems are mounting for all manufacturers. This problem doesn't get fixed with a magic wand. Ain't nobody got one of those. All manufacturing was basically shut down two years ago. Every aspect of automotive manufacturing was disrupted. Even making sparkplugs. A lot of bad decisions were made. Manufacturing is a complex system and nobody understands how all of it works. That is why it's hard to fix through artificial interventions. If I could explain it this way; In an airplane, if it enters uncontrolled flight, like a spin, a pilot may try to intervein in gaining control through manipulation of the aircraft controls. When it has been proven true for all but the most dire situations, that the best way to restore control is to do nothing. The plane wants to fly if you let it. Not a discussion on everything one needs to know to fly a 747. But just to point out that everything is part of a complex system and is highly susceptible to the butterfly affect. But to interfere with nearly all parts of a system means it will take time for things to sort themselves out. It can't be done through artificial means. Politicians can't force it to be so.

From an historical perspective, following WWII, it took Ford four years to produce its first post war model, the '49 Ford. Ford never stopped manufacturing. In fact, they were building Jeeps and bombers. Other things too. But they were still making stuff. The processes were functioning. But just switching over took four long years. And don't think they weren't putting everything they had to that achievement.

So, here we have an even more dramatic intervention in the manufacturing process. It is simply unrealistic to think this ship pulls out of a spin with the pilot fighting the controls and not understanding why it's not doing what he wants. If you are in the market for a vehicle today, then welcome to the Thunderdome. Best to sit this out for another two or three years and let this complex system restore function through natural means.

 

We are all aware of the supply chain issues. Why state the obvious?

The concern here is they are unsure if the orders of 2022’s will be built.
Wouldn’t you agree that’s kinda why important to the folks who are waiting for trucks?
What happens to deposits?
What happens to my place in line?
Will I have to reconfigure?
Price change?
Will accessories bought fit a 2023?

Waiting is one thing. Taking orders you can not fill is bad business.
Not communicating is worse.

I want my truck, however I don’t need my truck. Just keep me in the loop so I can plan ahead. Not much to ask for.

 

This. 100%. Although I do need a truck since I sold my 2019 6.2L. I need a truck come May. I ordered in November and am not sure I will have a truck come
May or if the truck I ordered will be built. Why is Ford still accepting orders if they don’t think they will produce all current orders? It would be one thing if it was in order of order date, but just yesterday I saw at least 2 get scheduled who ordered one week ago.

There is a new post on BOF related to speculation going around and not to trust it. It has great information. However, Ford, do you know what would stop speculation? Maybe an email from Ford to those with outstanding orders explaining the process and giving some information, estimates and number to call if you have been unscheduled for 4+ months to have someone at Ford that can do something, maybe do something. Instead, we are supposed to look to a message board, telling us not listen to what we see on message boards. To discuss with your dealer, but then this says the dealer doesn’t have factual information. But what do I know?

 

That is my concern also. I have resisted the urge to raid the accessory catalogs in case Ford can't build it.

 

U.S. manufacturing made a lot of short sighted decisions; in many industries; transferring production out of the country. Think about the drug industry; most of it made overseas. If China really wanted to put the hurt on us, they could just stop shipping drugs. Think about how many people would become ill or die. It's everywhere. You don't build new production overnight. It takes years and re-learned expertise.

 

They've already cut off ordering for 2022 Mavericks, with 2023 order banks not opening until summer. The demand of things these days is well beyond supply capabilities.

 

Because it's not so obvious. You think this is purely a logistics problem. Your statement says so. That's only a part of the complex system.

 

and for those of you here who end up in a spin, please do not let go of the controls, apply opposite rudder! for the love of god