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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 09:12 AM
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loose door handle bucket

my passenger rear door handle bucket is loose. meaning when the handle is pulled, the bucket pulls out from the door panel at the rear of the bucket (front, fixed side of the handle)
it doesn't pull out much, but enough to be noticed. no other handles do this.

i actually removed the door panel and was able to get to the mounting nuts on the backside of it. I was just using a nut driver and got them hand tight. I did not want to go any tighter for fear of breaking it.
the bucket is slightly tighter, but still not like the others.

any thoughts? I surely don't want to break it
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 10:54 AM
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Are you missing the bolt shown at the 0:49 mark in this video? Both front & rear doors have that same bolt.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 12:05 PM
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Are you missing the bolt shown at the 0:49 mark in this video? Both front & rear doors have that same bolt.
no, that is the one I tightened, but don't want to tighten anymore really. I am tempted to put a 1/4" ratchet on it and snug slightly more 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 12:18 PM
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If that rear bolt and the two forward nuts are secure, then I would suspect someone yanked on it viciously (attempted break-in) and broke some of the internal structure. If the bolt and nuts are not moving, and you can still see the handle surround-panel pulling away from the door panel, I'm fairly certain that it's broken. I'd suggest confirming that with your dealer's body shop (or a body shop you're familiar with) before ordering any new parts.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cficare
If that rear bolt and the two forward nuts are secure, then I would suspect someone yanked on it viciously (attempted break-in) and broke some of the internal structure. If the bolt and nuts are not moving, and you can still see the handle surround-panel pulling away from the door panel, I'm fairly certain that it's broken. I'd suggest confirming that with your dealer's body shop (or a body shop you're familiar with) before ordering any new parts.
thank you. i think i will just let the dealer take a look and go from there
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 12:40 PM
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I installed jimmi-jammers on all my doors and removed the lock cylinder from the driver's door on both my 2017 and 2022 F250. The new F150 door handles have been revised and they no longer have that small surround-panel around the exterior door handle. I wish the 2022 Super Duty trucks had gotten that same upgrade.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cficare
I installed jimmi-jammers on all my doors and removed the lock cylinder from the driver's door on both my 2017 and 2022 F250. The new F150 door handles have been revised and they no longer have that small surround-panel around the exterior door handle. I wish the 2022 Super Duty trucks had gotten that same upgrade.
those handles are so much nicer
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 05:17 PM
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well, i bit the bullet and took the door panel off and tackled it again.
I put a 1/4" drive ratchet on the nuts. I was able to snug the top nut up some more, to the point that it is tight.
The lower nut is snug, but seems to not be tightening up like the top. almost seems like something is stripped. so I stopped, I know I did not strip it.
The top was where most of the the bucket movement was coming from. It seems like it is tight now and fixed.

One thing I noticed the other day when I first took the door panel off, was that the foam tape covering over the nut access holes had been removed/punched through. Seemed like someone was in there before.
I bought the truck used with 1,500 miles on it. It is very possible that that door handle was replaced and not completely tightened down by the previous owner. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I am going to get painted handles. The company I am going to use sells complete brand new painted buckets and handles. The price is just slightly higher than just the painted handles alone. So, I will leave it alone until I replace them
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cficare
I installed jimmi-jammers on all my doors and removed the lock cylinder from the driver's door on both my 2017 and 2022 F250. The new F150 door handles have been revised and they no longer have that small surround-panel around the exterior door handle. I wish the 2022 Super Duty trucks had gotten that same upgrade.
Did you just remove the lock cylinder and put a plug in the door handle itself on your 2017? Or did you replace the handle with a passenger side handle (or rear door handle) to get rid of the lock cylinder. After my truck was broken into by the scumbags, I replaced the handle assembly with the one from the passenger side without the lock cylinder or hole in the handle. I talked to a salesman at a truck shop that sold the Jimmie Jammers and he said if I did that, then the Jimmy Jammer wouldn't work on the driver's door any longer. This was due to a change in the way the door handle is built for the passenger side door. I also removed the linkage rod mentioned in the above video to keep them from trying to reach down by the window and pull the rod to open the door. The next time they broke into the truck, they broke the rear driver's door window. That was cheaper to fix then the door lock. Glass was only $92 and my labor to install.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 06:28 PM
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Did you just remove the lock cylinder and put a plug in the door handle itself on your 2017? Or did you replace the handle with a passenger side handle (or rear door handle) to get rid of the lock cylinder.
I plugged the two holes ... the keyhole in the handle & hole the lock cylinder occupied. I found some good-fitting plastic black snap-in plugs versus the plugs that came with the Jimmi-Jammers. With keyless ignition and proximity sensors in the front door handles, using a rear door handle was not an option. Gave thought to using a passenger door handle, but it's an expensive option. Plus, I had to reinstall the lock cylinder in my 2017 before trading it in towards my 2022. I don't see why the Jimmi-Jammer plate would not fit if I did use a passenger door handle.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 06:32 PM
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The lower nut is snug, but seems to not be tightening up like the top. almost seems like something is stripped. so I stopped, I know I did not strip it.
The top was where most of the the bucket movement was coming from. It seems like it is tight now and fixed.
I used a 1/4" ratchet on those nuts, and you have to turn them a long way before they bottom out. They're not self-locking nuts, but I could not turn any of them by hand except for the last 2 or 3 threads.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 09:14 AM
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I used a 1/4" ratchet on those nuts, and you have to turn them a long way before they bottom out. They're not self-locking nuts, but I could not turn any of them by hand except for the last 2 or 3 threads.
maybe it was just tightening more and not stripped. i didn't want to risk it. i was being very gentle from the get go, so i know i didn't strip it
 
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cficare
I plugged the two holes ... the keyhole in the handle & hole the lock cylinder occupied. I found some good-fitting plastic black snap-in plugs versus the plugs that came with the Jimmi-Jammers. With keyless ignition and proximity sensors in the front door handles, using a rear door handle was not an option. Gave thought to using a passenger door handle, but it's an expensive option. Plus, I had to reinstall the lock cylinder in my 2017 before trading it in towards my 2022. I don't see why the Jimmi-Jammer plate would not fit if I did use a passenger door handle.
The reason the Jimmi-Jammer doesn't work is that you are inverting the door handle from the passenger side and putting it on the driver's side upside down. The edges of the door handle are just enough different that if you flip it, it changes how the handle sits in the opening in the door. The Jimmi-Jammer doesn't work with the flipped handle. At least this was what was explained to me by the guy at the truck shop I was talking with. After looking at the handle, I tend to believe him. At least you got yours taken care of and had a working solution. Insurance paid for mine so it was worth it to get the handle and have it painted to match the truck. I had enough left over that it also paid for the glass two months later. Now if they will just leave my truck alone!!!!
 
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 11:40 AM
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Now if they will just leave my truck alone!!!!
My current quest is to find an aftermarket panel for protecting the 2 catalytic converters, or fab/build my own. Cat clamps with cabling is not an effective solution according to my research. I've had neither a break-in nor stolen cat(s) ... I'm just freaky over security items.
 
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