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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 38 coupe
Flathead V8s up through 47 in trucks and 48 in cars used the oil pan with built on bottom of the bell housing.
If you really want to ID the engine you can read through the big thread we did on the Ford Barn a while back:https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...5301&showall=1
that tells me all i need to know, that its early flathead then yes? There were more than one obviously but now i know why its there, it wasnt suitable for my gpas once ambitious goals to make a ratrod. He shifted his plan to SBC 283
 
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 08:16 PM
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It is early or mid flathead. The only engines excluded are the late 8BA style engines with bolt on bell housings. The picture tells very little.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2022 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 38 coupe
It is early or mid flathead. The only engines excluded are the late 8BA style engines with bolt on bell housings. The picture tells very little.
Thats all right for me for now lol thanks. It wont be going anywhere soon and its been there for 20 years or more.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2022 | 04:38 AM
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It took me 3 seconds luckily but i found another photo without trying, so Ill throw that in. not sure if it helps
 
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 10:41 AM
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Hmm... 24 stud engine without clean out core plugs (look like tiny freeze plugs) in the oil pan rail. Raised exhaust manifold bosses instead of smooth block curved out to meet the manifold mounting areas. Those features are typically mutually exclusive. Maybe a late 1940 or early 1941 engine? Can you provide more pictures?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 38 coupe
Hmm... 24 stud engine without clean out core plugs (look like tiny freeze plugs) in the oil pan rail. Raised exhaust manifold bosses instead of smooth block curved out to meet the manifold mounting areas. Those features are typically mutually exclusive. Maybe a late 1940 or early 1941 engine? Can you provide more pictures?
at this moment, the snow is pretty deep to back there and thats about 2 acres down and then back up a decent hill and as much as im a committed health nut **** that cardio lol. I can provide more prob soon if I can remember when it gets warmer i can set the plow on the utv to an angle and just wisk my way . what pictures would be most helpful, i will have likely some snow to move unless its cleared off by then. and how heavy is it you think is it something i can realistically manuver or find a number without hurting that poor dodge truck bed lol
 
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 11:54 AM
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You need to roll it over - pictures of the heads and front of the engine will help ID it.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 06:05 PM
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Heads are commonly swapped around and not a good indicator of exactly what an engine is. Given the engine has sat outside uncovered for 40 years it probably is academic at best, unlikely the engine could be rebuilt.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 11:35 PM
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I was thinking 21 or 24 stud heads, not cast numbers
 
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Fred is most likely right about the rebuild. 20 years of rain filling the cylinders through the exhaust ports, then the freezing WI weather, it's not likely to be rebuildable.

However, the cast iron parts of the vertical drum stove look pretty good:

 
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Originally Posted by mtflat
I was thinking 21 or 24 stud heads, not cast numbers
I'm pretty confident it is a 24 stud engine. I think only one stud would be visible on the bottom row if it was 21 stud. Also, all 21 stud blocks I am familiar with have the small core plugs that look like really small freeze plugs in the oil pan rail. I may be wrong, I have been wrong before and will be wrong again.
 
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I'm not arguing with you Fred. I appreciate your input and I suspect that's what she will discover if she gets it rolled over.
I don't see the bulges along the pan rail where the core plugs should be if it's early..
Point of reference here, I have a 36 LB complete, a 37 that I disassembled, and a 59AB that I've never messed with, so I wasn't sure what the oil pan and clutch cover looked like on that.
Most of my stuff though is late series 8BAs, etc
 
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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mtflat
I'm not arguing with you Fred. I appreciate your input and I suspect that's what she will discover if she gets it rolled over.
I don't see the bulges along the pan rail where the core plugs should be if it's early..
Point of reference here, I have a 36 LB complete, a 37 that I disassembled, and a 59AB that I've never messed with, so I wasn't sure what the oil pan and clutch cover looked like on that.
Most of my stuff though is late series 8BAs, etc
most of my flatheads are 49 and 53 this 3rd duck just spoils things

Well, the dodge flat 6 is cool but obv not a ford v8 flathead

the flathead 4s on the model a things are cool too but not the sameee.

I wish I could enjoy these things more tbh

ANYWAY, not to drag on this thread, but do you all by chance know what the heck this truck is, I was told it appeared not-ford like but the rear axle screams ford but maybe it was rat rod situation. It was my gpas intent at least with it. but Im unsure what it is



 
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I think it's about a 35 or 36 Chevrolet that someone transplanted a Ford 8" rear into.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 52 Merc
I think it's about a 35 or 36 Chevrolet that someone transplanted a Ford 8" rear into.
THANK YOU

that means the front end to a 30s gmc in my shed is prob to it

It was something like this. I think I have the bed too, the walls that is. Interesting. Not saying it’s a keeper but do you know what kind of value that thing has? I believe the fenders and running boards are in my rafters in shed and the seat too. Bed is dented but like the cab Nose is in great shape and the hood pieces are in rafters too. If you don’t know that’s ok you helped a lot already
 
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