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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 10:06 AM
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CP4 Pump Fuel Additives

So we all know the CP4 has problems , and some of the best techs say adding things like FPPF or Stanadyne fuel lubricant additives and changing your filters often will cut your chances of a disaster way down. not just any additive but the lubricant specific ones. I'm sure some here know all about it but I didn't even know there was a problem this seruious until recently so maybe his will help some people who were unaware.

But the real issue is while other manufacturers are being forced to step up and do something about this problem as I understand it Ford is still fighting in court trying to say it's bad fuel and not their problem. does anyone have any information on this and if Ford does lose what years will be effected ? after meeting a guy who had a total engine failure because of this I'm trying to get up to speed.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 10:08 AM
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I use motor craft pm-22 on every tank not sure it does anything but makes me feel better
 
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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 10:13 AM
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I have been using OptiLube XPD in every tank of diesel I get. I also get fuel from the same station (unless traveling of course) and save the receipts.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 10:17 AM
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Bio-dieael (even only 5%) is the best protection for fuel system internals by a Mile. And the cheapest also, just 1 gallon of bio is overkill.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 10:41 AM
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I can get the bio blend here but everyone says it horrible for collecting water and it plugs your filters twice as fast. both problems are pump killers. but I'm not sure how true that is.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 11:14 AM
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I can't speak to where you are, but I live in Oregon and I ran B20 in my 05 Cummins for 150k Miles with zero problems. I do understand that these new diesel's fuel systems are very fragile, but to each their own.✌️
 
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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chadstickpoindexter
and save the receipts.
That's probably a really good idea! Free liability transfer if you get some crappy fuel.

Do you do that at every station or just when traveling?
 
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That's probably a really good idea! Free liability transfer if you get some crappy fuel.

Do you do that at every station or just when traveling?
I have been saving then from every time I fill up, no matter if it's the same one I always use in my hometown, or on the road. The receipt at least shows the store details and the fact that I got "diesel" rather than just a charge on my card. I also write down mileage and such every time I fill up and keep up with that in a separate notebook. I hope I never have to try and challenge a fuel station because of bad fuel, but I figure saving the receipts is a great place to start if I need to.
 
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Agreed, that's cheap insurance too!
 
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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 01:24 PM
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Fresh fuel.
I use either optilube or motorcraft. 4 oz per tank. Cheap and possibly ineffective, but it can’t hurt.
 
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I guess you could try to blame it on the fuel that's what Ford is trying to do. but Ford already has our money and you'd have to get it out of the fuel station. I'd bet that would be a very tough uphill battle to win.

Anything we can do to prevent a disaster would be well worth the effort and filters and additives are all I am aware of. hopefully Ford will be forced to resolve this but I'm not holding mt breath they'll be as proactive as GM and Dodge.
 
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I guess you could try to blame it on the fuel that's what Ford is trying to do. but Ford already has our money and you'd have to get it out of the fuel station. I'd bet that would be a very tough uphill battle to win.

Anything we can do to prevent a disaster would be well worth the effort and filters and additives are all I am aware of. hopefully Ford will be forced to resolve this but I'm not holding mt breath they'll be as proactive as GM and Dodge.
The problem from what I understand the 6.7PSD doesn't have enough space to fit a CP3 pump in the valley otherwise the aftermarket would've had conversion kits available like the Duramax.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 02:55 PM
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The problem from what I understand the 6.7PSD doesn't have enough space to fit a CP3 pump in the valley otherwise the aftermarket would've had conversion kits available like the Duramax.
Isn’t CP3 high pressure rating about 10k less than the PSD’s 36k?
 
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Originally Posted by 440 sixpack

But the real issue is while other manufacturers are being forced to step up and do something about this problem as I understand it Ford is still fighting in court trying to say it's bad fuel and not their problem. does anyone have any information on this and if Ford does lose what years will be effected ?

Years affected would be 2011-current. The CP4.2 has been in use since the introduction of the 6.7l Powerstroke, 2011MY. I'm sure you can find discussions on Ford/CP4 failures dating back to around that time. It has been a known concern for quite a few years.

As far as additives go, living in this part of CA we don't see real cold weather, so I'm planning to go with Opti-Lube Summer. Right now I'm running Power Service Diesel Kleen. Something like $16 for 80oz.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 05:15 PM
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As additives go, here is a old study, however it is still the most through study I am aware of and still relevant. There are some newer products on the market that are not included in this test and claim to have better numbers than the best products in this test and I would think as time has passed there could easily be better products available. The goal is to get the best luberosity with water emulsifiers for the least amount of money in a easy to use/measurable container. So it can be in your vehicle with you at all times. As long as you are running one of the top 3-4 brands available today. think evidence shows that you will reduce the risk of pump failure. Enjoy the read I find it interesting.
DIESEL FUEL LUBRICITY ADDITIVES STUDY RESULTS - Diesel_fuel_additive_test.pdf
 
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