CP4 Pump Fuel Additives
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It was but I wonder if Bosch increased to fuel pressure on the new CP3's that are going into current Ram trucks.
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Standyne performance additive is 12 cents a gallon increase in cost.
It has a cetane booster and it works as an antigel. Helps separate out some water supposedly as well.
They say 4% mpg increase, which is 12 cents at $3 a gallon.
I would suggest looking into a disaster prevention kit as well.
It has a cetane booster and it works as an antigel. Helps separate out some water supposedly as well.
They say 4% mpg increase, which is 12 cents at $3 a gallon.
I would suggest looking into a disaster prevention kit as well.
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Side note, the place I work installed this disaster prevention kit on their 6.7L psd. Losing the pump is bad enough, but without a similar kit, the rails, lines, & injectors get trashed too.
https://ssdiesel.com/product/ford-6-...pass-kit-2011/
https://ssdiesel.com/product/ford-6-...pass-kit-2011/
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It's worse than that. you can stick an injector and roast the engine. I think that's rare but it can happen.
Cetane and all that is great, but it's lubrication that matters for the pump. Standyne says their lubrication additive has 4 times the increased lube vale of any other product they sell.
So the disaster kit looks like something to consider, depending on what if anything Ford is going to do about this. since GM and Dodge stepped up and Ford lost the suit what will that mean ? will Ford deny a recall if there is one because you screwed with it ?
Cetane and all that is great, but it's lubrication that matters for the pump. Standyne says their lubrication additive has 4 times the increased lube vale of any other product they sell.
So the disaster kit looks like something to consider, depending on what if anything Ford is going to do about this. since GM and Dodge stepped up and Ford lost the suit what will that mean ? will Ford deny a recall if there is one because you screwed with it ?
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Not that it matters, some have said that it's made by Gold Eagle(Sta-Bil) and possibly just a re-branded version of one of their additives. I would say use what you want, any improvement in lubricity is good and won't hurt.
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biggest reason I went with it is some say don’t use a emulsifier some say don’t use alcohol and I’m not a chemical expert to know but I definitely want the best I can use
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6.4 all years
6.7 all years
its not just a CP4 problem. its a problem with all cam lobe architecture fuel pumps that rely on fuel for lube.
there are numerous use causes of cp4 failure and various theories to mitigate.
interestingly...I recently found a "good fuel" station list, and the local brand I "was" using for years was not on it, which I found interesting since I recently did a fill at a different brand and my truck seemed to run much better .
some general comments
when ford says it was caused by water in the fuel....duh, why didnt the ford water separator light up, put the engine in wrench mode, or why was there no water in the water collector.
when ford says its fuel contamination "debris", duh, you mean the ford fuel filters dont work?
when ford says "its due to rust" because see here...this one particular part is sensitive to moisture and when it rust up...that tells us there was rust in the system....duh, are you saying the part in question rusted and spread rust thru out the system...why not make the part out of stainless steel.
this problem will diminish when all fuel becomes B5 simular to how most home heating fuel is B5.
B5 has superior lube value.
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the last controlled lab analysis of fuel lube additives was in 2007.
B5 was the winner
opti lube had twice the lube value benefit of stanydene
DIESEL FUEL LUBRICITY ADDITIVES STUDY RESULTS (jatonkam35s.com)
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I use either Archoil 6500 or Optilube. Right now Archoil in the truck and Optilube in the tractor, skid steer and compact track loader
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This is supposed to be the very best lubricant. I'm going to use it and just hope for the best I guess.
Stanadyne Lubricity Formula Pint Bottle 16 oz., Individual Bottles. Treats 125 gallons diesel fuel per Bottle. - 38560 | TheDieselStore.com
Is there any pending recall on these pumps or are we just on our own ? for what it would cost Ford I'm going to say they'll fight it to the death. never mind the other manufacturers have accepted their responsibility to correct it.
Stanadyne Lubricity Formula Pint Bottle 16 oz., Individual Bottles. Treats 125 gallons diesel fuel per Bottle. - 38560 | TheDieselStore.com
Is there any pending recall on these pumps or are we just on our own ? for what it would cost Ford I'm going to say they'll fight it to the death. never mind the other manufacturers have accepted their responsibility to correct it.
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This is supposed to be the very best lubricant. I'm going to use it and just hope for the best I guess.
Stanadyne Lubricity Formula Pint Bottle 16 oz., Individual Bottles. Treats 125 gallons diesel fuel per Bottle. - 38560 | TheDieselStore.com
Is there any pending recall on these pumps or are we just on our own ? for what it would cost Ford I'm going to say they'll fight it to the death. never mind the other manufacturers have accepted their responsibility to correct it.
Stanadyne Lubricity Formula Pint Bottle 16 oz., Individual Bottles. Treats 125 gallons diesel fuel per Bottle. - 38560 | TheDieselStore.com
Is there any pending recall on these pumps or are we just on our own ? for what it would cost Ford I'm going to say they'll fight it to the death. never mind the other manufacturers have accepted their responsibility to correct it.
It would be interesting to know what percentage of these pumps have seen early failure since 2011, and what percentage of those were verifiably caused by contamination. I have a feeling it would be a fairly low number.
I'm finding that fuel standards can vary from state to state. Here in CA. from what I can tell the minimum cetane rating is 53, and the lubricity standard 520 microns max. Elsewhere I have read that anything over 520 will likely cause damage and premature failure (Not specific to CP4 pumps). If diesel fuels in this country are at the upper limits of that standard, a lubricity additive seems like a must, even though it won't do anything in the case of contamination. For comparison sake, Canada has a standard of no higher than 460 microns.