Has anyone seen what the KW/100 mile rating is yet?

 

Ford states that it takes 13 hours to charge the extended battery using the 48 amp/240 volt charger. My guess is that this charge will give you 300 miles of range, but they may be talking about a 20% to 85% charge, which will be closer to 225 miles.

At 300 miles, the equation would be 48 times 240 times 13 divided by 1,000 which is 150 KWH for the full charge. This would mean that one KWH will take the truck 2 miles. This would be 50 KWH per 100 miles.

At 225 miles, the KWH to charge would be the same at 150 KWH. Under this scenerio, one KWH would take you 1.5 miles. This would be about 65 KWH per 100 miles.

I pay my utility $0.125 per KWH. At 300 miles per charge, I would pay a little over 6 cents per mile. At 225 miles per charge, I would pay a little over 8 cents per mile. That's a lot cheaper than gas or diesel.

 

Cheaper yes, just weighing how much cheaper against the price of limited range. I still might need to keep a fuel truck for trips and hunting season.
Thanks for taking the time to answer.

 

For comparison, my daily driver gets around 25 mpg. At $3.00 per gallon (price today) that's $0.12 per mile making electric around half the cost per mile for fuel alone.

Much of the gas price is tax. Guessing electric will eventually have to be taxed in some way to replace gas tax revenue.

 

What type of vehicle is your daily driver? If it is a sedan, then EV sedans usually produce about 4 miles per KWH. That would put it at about $0.03 per mile for an EV sedan.

 

2008 Taurus X (seats 7). It will get 28 on the interstate and 22 around town so I say 25.

 

Not posted yet that I am aware of. However, there is enough information for us to figure out pretty close.
When I saw the Lightning in person, I was able to count how many battery pack modules and compare it to the E-Transit (which we know is identical to the standard range Mach-E.
Ford says the extended range Lightning is expected to have 300 miles of range. So far they have been pretty good with their targets. If that holds true then we can calculate battery size based on charge times.
My Mach-E FE (AWD Extended Range) takes about 10 hours to charge at 48A 0-100%. That equates to 30 miles of range per hour of charge time.
Per Ford's published table...the Lightning Extended range takes 13 hours to charge from 15-100% which is 85% of usable battery capacity. If range is 300 miles then 85% of that is 255 miles. Divide that by 13 hours is 19.61 miles of range added per charging hour.
So, let's round that up to 20 miles of range when charging L2 @ 48A. Compare that to 30 miles of range for the Mach-E @48A. The ratio is 2/3 = 66%
Miles per kWh on the Mach-E is 3.3-3.4
Miles per kWh on the Lightning is going to be about 2.25 mi/kWh. Which means the Lightning will have a 134 kWh usable capacity battery pack and that is aligns with the battery pack that I saw in person. Of course, I was only able to look at the HVB case.....not the actual modules inside so I am making an educated guess still

Here is the charging table from Ford.

 

5oo Hp = 400 KW
400 Hp = 300 kw
300 HP = 225 kw,
200 hp = 150 KW,
100 HP = 75 KW,
50 HP = 35 KW,

My home averages 5o kwh, maybe near 70 hp.

 

I’m pretty sure he’s talking about kWh/100 miles, which is a rating of efficiency, not power. My Model 3 would get around 250 Wh/mi, and I’d expect the Lightning to get about half that. Multiplying that out and you’d see around 50 kW/100 miles.

 

looks like 460 wh. 6500 lbs traveling 75 mph.

ENERGY CALCULATOR

 

That’s going to be wildly inaccurate. It’s a straight efficiency calculation, which is akin to MPG for a gas burner. You can’t plug in weight and speed to get an accurate MPG rating because there’s a lot more to it; wind resistance being the number one factor at those speeds.

 

I know it keeps coming up over 800 KWH every 24 hours. Which means 50 HP used running 75 mph. or about a 37 KWH. meaning 4 hour driving time at 75 mph and 6500 lb truck. No load or wind resistance, hills, stops etc. Just perfect ! and 75 X 4 = 300 miles range. I know a 50 HP 440v motor is a real Bad ARss. but so is shoving 6500 lbs of F150 75 MPH ! Pushing a Turbo F150 at those speeds returns near 21 mpg maybe. Thus you use 14 gallons of gas. That is equal to 34 KWH. Of course the gas at $4 a gallon = $56 which puts its costs over the top daily runs compared to todays Electric charges. which may be $100 for 3000 KWH.

The question is with solar power and wind power being monitories and the charges and benefits monthly being billed to me, how much are the payment gonna be in 10 years to the power companies of different sources. Whew ! $$$'s

I already know a Hybrid Passenger car is a better choice for me and + 55 Miles per gallon even though I know my driving style will put it nearer to 48 mpg but it fits my needs. Thus the F150 Turbos gas trucks relegates to needful use not constant use. An I got the necessary range that I need for a Daytime only 550 miles out and back with no stops !

 

You keep pulling constants out of thin air and missing the fact that efficiency and consumption are extremely specific and nuanced concepts. There is no universal constant that determines efficiency. It’s all about wind resistance, rolling resistance, and the specific efficiency of the powertrain.

We won’t know any efficiency data until the truck comes close to being released. I was spitballing based on my Tesla’s consumption, but it may be way off.

 

I know, I am determining my needs as most all who own F150's will also. You get caught up in the specific questions of the thread. If I Had a burb only life style the F150 EV would be perfect for me. As it is I cannot functionalize a F150 3.5L hybrid either. 24 mpg just cant cut it at over $5 a gallon !

Another point is I cannot drive expressways at energy consumption Ecco speeds of 60-65. Everyone even the 18 wheelers are well into the high 70's+
Of course the Fed may once again mandate 55 mph expressway speeds due to emissions tonnages. That creates the usages of side roads and less traffic also.

 

Saw this done with a 1000 # + battery on a Tesla (almost 1000 feet pull ) They most likely never sold that one !