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Old Nov 22, 2021 | 05:37 PM
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BARO/MAP question

Hey y’all. My 02 7.3 auto has always been a dog off the line. Horribly/dangerously slow off the line.

I was researching on here today and found it could be a bad MAP sensor. I made sure the tube was clear. I disconnected the map, and boom, more low end power than I have ever had. Felt like I always thought a 7.3 should (I have always run a PHP to be able to drive safely or tow)

my question is, does this mean the MAP is bad, or is it possibly the BARO sensor is bad? Like does the truck with a unplugged MAP resort to the to the BARO or vice versa?

I have read that the truck with the MAP unplugged goes to a default mode?

just trying to figure this out before I get my AE for Christmas.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2021 | 06:43 PM
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Can you read the vales for MAP, BARO and EBP with Forscan? They should all match, withing a 10th, or two, and be appropriate for your altitude. If one is an outlier, look there.

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Old Nov 22, 2021 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ScaldedDog
Can you read the vales for MAP, BARO and EBP with Forscan? They should all match, withing a 10th, or two, and be appropriate for your altitude. If one is an outlier, look there.

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I’ll have to wait a month to get my AE, or maybe swing by somebody’s with a scanner
 
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Old Nov 22, 2021 | 08:15 PM
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Are you sure you need Auto Enginuity? My understanding is FORScan can do everything AE can for free on a laptop, and just a few dollars on a phone. A how-to thread below will help you get set up if interested. We'd like to save you that AE money if possible.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...d-q-and-a.html
 
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Old Nov 22, 2021 | 08:17 PM
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Are you sure you need Auto Enginuity? My understanding is FORScan can do everything AE can for free on a laptop, and just a few dollars on a phone. A how-to thread below will help you get set up if interested. We'd like to save you that AE money if possible.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...d-q-and-a.html

if forscan is really that good then I guess I can return it to riffraff
 
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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 06:48 AM
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if forscan is really that good then I guess I can return it to riffraff
Yes forscan is that good, just cancel the AE order!
 
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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 07:11 AM
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I was looking through the Ford Service Manual for another FTE'rs issue and ran across this.


Pinpoint test AG is attached as a PDF.

Maybe it will help.
 
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What a great set of tests in one document, Sous, thanks for posting. I gotta get brave enough to run some of the WOT tests for sensor checks mentioned in there - probably a more consistent way to check for ICP sensor bias, for instance.

Noted the "Cody Test" is in there, the procedure to check for injector leaks using shop air:



Also that annoying EBPV code we sometimes get, even though the valve is operating correctly - there's a visual check to justify ignoring it. Gotta love it when the manual says to ignore the code and just drive it.


 
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This is my reading. Absolutely nothing from the BARO???
Absolutely nothing from the BARO. This was warmed up and idling

what are my
options? It’s a 02. Don’t really wanna buy a brand new one. Is there a place I can send my PCU
 
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You may need to go off volt reference for the baro

Edit, nevermind, apprently looks like only the 99-01 ones are volt ref, 02-03 are psi reference.
I never had one newer then an 00
 
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Originally Posted by ESwift
You may need to go off volt reference for the baro
I didn’t see that option but I’ll double check
 
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Originally Posted by Icculus
I didn’t see that option but I’ll double check
I edited above, look like the 02 and 03 are supposed to show actual baro psi
 
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What do they read with the key on, but engine off? Also, are there multiple choices in Forescan for BARO? If so, pick the other one. Oh, and change the units from kPa to PSI, so we can recognize the values without having to convert them.

Lastly, where do you live? Specifically, at what altitude?

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Old Nov 23, 2021 | 08:51 PM
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ill try to get all the readings on PSI tomorrow. if anyone has free time, im not sure which exact BARO, MAP, and EBPV ones to select in forscan. Also what measurements? voltage and PSI for each?

what all reading do i need just so i can have a list of what t o grab, so my rookieness doesnt drag this thread on.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2021 | 12:48 AM
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After driving home I did a KOEO and this is what I got. Perhaps all is working fine




 
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