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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 11:43 AM
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2020 SD bouncy when towing

I can't figure out why this 2020 is so bouncy when towing my 32' Reflection fiver. When I bought the truck I installed Sumo springs. I also put the Goosebox on the RV. Even if I air the Goosebox to near max when I hit a bump I get a really bouncy ride. I can't tell if it's the Goosebox, the Sumo "air spring" or if its the springs on the truck.

I do know that the springs on my 20 are softer than the springs on my 16 because the truck rides smoother empty.

Thoughts?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 12:17 PM
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Is it bouncing off the overload spring? I have air bags, and if I don’t air up enough mine does that.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 01:49 PM
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Is it bouncing off the overload spring? I have air bags, and if I don’t air up enough mine does that.
It might be. It does ride on the overloads.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 02:05 PM
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Crappy shocks?

When I tow, I increase the setting on my Rancho 9000XL shocks to reduce the porpoising. That helps more than I thought it would. Mine is a bumper pull so not quite an apples-to-apples comparison.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
Crappy shocks?

When I tow, I increase the setting on my Rancho 9000XL shocks to reduce the porpoising. That helps more than I thought it would. Mine is a bumper pull so not quite an apples-to-apples comparison.
It has Bilstein 4600's front and rear and that's what I always run on all of my SD's so I don't think that's it..
Loaded pin weight of the camper is less than 2k lbs
 
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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer
It has Bilstein 4600's front and rear and that's what I always run on all of my SD's so I don't think that's it..
Loaded pin weight of the camper is less than 2k lbs
Maybe not enough pin weight? It depends on what your trailer's GVWR is and what the loaded axle weights are. If you have too much weight behind the axles I could see the trailer being bouncy.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 05:56 PM
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Have you scaled the truck and trailer to see your pin weight?

Maybe the Sumos allowing to much bounce?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2021 | 09:47 AM
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Is it bouncing up and down or is it forward and backward motion?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2021 | 03:58 PM
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Sounds like a pin weight issue, is your fresh water tank towards the front? We noticed that our rig tows quite happy with 2/3 or 3/4 water. Without that weight the rig tended to porpuse.

Are you towing without any water/black/gray tanks full?
 
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I have Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks on my truck. When I tow I set them at their stiffest setting. I set them at half stiff when empty.

I have Air Lift air bags on the truck too.

I get too much bounce sometimes. But mostly when on bad roads: ==> roads that don't even provide a good ride when empty. The bounce is more pronounced when the roads have frost heave-like humps and dips.

I have found that with only 15 lbs of air in the bags the ride is better on wavy/humpy roads. On good roads I can air up to anywhere from 45 to 60 psi in the bags and things are OK.

I've pretty much decided that on bad roads it is a bad ride no matter when I do. On marginal roads I can vary the air pressure up or down to my liking.

I tried summa springs on the trailer but I don't think they helped.
 
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I should have pointed out in my prior post that my trailer does have shocks. Not the lousy Lippert or Dexter shocks that it came with. I'm using Monroe Magnum shocks that provide a lot more resistance than the Lippert/Dexter shocks do. Will that solve the OP's problem? Probably not, but it has to help some.
 
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Does it also bounce on blacktop roads? Concrete roads and Ford SD's do not ride well together. Bet it's a long bed, right? Each concrete pad on the road sets up a rhythm with LB Fords. Soften your springs and it will reduce (but not eliminate) the bounce.
 
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
Crappy shocks?

When I tow, I increase the setting on my Rancho 9000XL shocks to reduce the porpoising. That helps more than I thought it would. Mine is a bumper pull so not quite an apples-to-apples comparison.
We need to talk because I have the same shocks, bumper pull, and my main complaint is porpoising.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2021 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
Have you scaled the truck and trailer to see your pin weight?

Maybe the Sumos allowing to much bounce?
Like scrap rat says, start with the basics. Is the trailer level? What are the axle weights on the steering and drive axles of the truck? What are INDIVIDUAL trailer axle weights?

9 out of 10 times you will find your answer here.

Bob
 
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