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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 09:29 PM
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Starting issue, just click

Hi I am new to the forums and there might be a thread already created about my issue but have yet to find it.

My pickup is an 02 F250 7.3l. My current issue is the pickup will randomly not start, but just click. I have had this problem for a good 8 months now. It doesn't have any issue once the starter has engaged. Have have had it start by moving the engine over manually with a breaker bar.

For fixes I have replaced the starter 3 times brand new napa starters and not remans. New cam position sensor, ignition w/ key, new positive battery cable, new neutral safety switch, new shift sensor, new ignition switch. I have added a ground to the starter and cleaned all grounds I could find.

Has anyone ever had these same issues?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 09:33 PM
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If i did it right.... try these.


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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 11:10 PM
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Check for voltage at the starter when your having the problem.
You are describing a bad starter, dead battery, or a bad connection.

I guess you've proven that Napa starters aren't a good choice.
There are a few other options, I have a DB Power starter I really like but it has mixed reviews.
I think the 6.0 starter is an upgrade. At the very least I would use a motorcraft starter.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2021 | 11:53 PM
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I'm going to bet it's one of 2 things or possibly a combination of both. If your gear shifter is somewhat sloppy then the shift tube and associated screws, bushings, and hold down clamps are worth a look. If not that then the shift cable brackets and clips would be my next stop.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gwilly65
Hi I am new to the forums and there might be a thread already created about my issue but have yet to find it.

My pickup is an 02 F250 7.3l. My current issue is the pickup will randomly not start, but just click. I have had this problem for a good 8 months now. It doesn't have any issue once the starter has engaged. Have have had it start by moving the engine over manually with a breaker bar.

For fixes I have replaced the starter 3 times brand new napa starters and not remans. New cam position sensor, ignition w/ key, new positive battery cable, new neutral safety switch, new shift sensor, new ignition switch. I have added a ground to the starter and cleaned all grounds I could find.

Has anyone ever had these same issues?
I have a napa starter as well, i had to shim mine to make it work, found a couple of washers that fit around the bolts, between the starter and tranny!
Been working fine for a couple of years now
 
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 07:16 AM
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Click with no crank is a bad solenoid in a starter or in a vehicle itself(don't know If 02 Fseries has solenoid in fender?)

Sloppy shifter or bad neutral switch wouldn't click at all..?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 07:28 AM
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As the fellas have mentioned, it could be one or two of many issues causing the "click" noise and not the "vroom" noise. Do some poking around and come back to us and we can recommend a good course of action to get you back into the vroom category.


 
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 09:09 AM
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As the fellas have mentioned, it could be one or two of many issues causing the "click" noise and not the "vroom" noise. Do some poking around and come back to us and we can recommend a good course of action to get you back into the vroom category.

So I worked on it for a little bit last night (checking wiring, grounds, etc.) I turned the engine over with the breaker bar again and it fired right up, then this morning went out and it fired up no problem, parked at work shut off then tried to start again and just 'click'. While checking wiring I did not see anything obviously wrong on anything going to or related to starter.

I have replaced the shifter bushings atop the steering column, along with the entire cable from shifter to tranny. I will check the voltage next time I get a chance.

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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FinnishStroker
Click with no crank is a bad solenoid in a starter or in a vehicle itself(don't know If 02 Fseries has solenoid in fender?)

Sloppy shifter or bad neutral switch wouldn't click at all..?
This is my belief as well. First place I'd look would be solenoid or relay if it has one, second would be dirty/oxidized connections. My '99 has a fender mounted relay and I like that feature, the '02 does not.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gwilly65
So I worked on it for a little bit last night (checking wiring, grounds, etc.) I turned the engine over with the breaker bar again and it fired right up, then this morning went out and it fired up no problem, parked at work shut off then tried to start again and just 'click'. While checking wiring I did not see anything obviously wrong on anything going to or related to starter.

I have replaced the shifter bushings atop the steering column, along with the entire cable from shifter to tranny. I will check the voltage next time I get a chance.

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At first I thought barring the engine was moving the starter off a bad spot on the commutator, but that shouldn't move the starter at all.
If it was freewheeling the starter and moving the flywheel helped I'd say bad ring gear.

When you get the 'click' does the motor try to move at all? Turn the crank just an 1/8th?
I'm wondering if there is a partial hydro-lock happening that you clear by barring by hand?
I also wonder if it's just a weak starter or battary that can't quite get things moving.

Find someone with a means of measuring current to the starter. An inductive clamp meter would be my first choice, preferably an analog one like an old VAT-40, or one that graphs the reading. A plain digital meter is to slow and you'll miss the peak.

I think I remember 300A being about what my 7.3 was pulling, with a replacement starter.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2021 | 07:17 AM
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Click with no crank is a bad solenoid in a starter or in a vehicle itself(don't know If 02 Fseries has solenoid in fender?)

Sloppy shifter or bad neutral switch wouldn't click at all..?
My e99 does, I just went through another round of it recently. First start of the morning for about a week of so, just click. Crawl under the truck move the range sensor through some gears then back to park and she'd crank. Jump the fender solenoid and she'd crank. As for an 02 I can't say one way or another. I often forget about all the differences and changes made in the seemingly short 4 year span of the 7.3 super duty.
 
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