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Old Oct 10, 2021 | 02:16 PM
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Eec calibration code help

My son and I recently swapped his e4od for a zf5 in his 94 f350 with a 460. The e4od ecm did not work well with the 5speed so we swapped in the ecm from the 1990 donor truck. All is well with the 1990 eec except we keep getting code 41 (no hego) after some diagnostics with the dmm I found that the o2 sensor has no ground at pin 49 on the eec. The e4od eec has continuity between pin 49 ( hego ground) and pin 60( eec ground) but the computer from the 1990 does not. The parts store shows 3 possiblities ( AMA, ANA, or ZA). Could somebody provide me with the correct. Ecm code fo a 1994 f350 7.5l manual trans with a 4 wire o2 sensor and black ignition module? Or at least tell me how to figure it out cause ive worn google out trying.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 48kenworth
The e4od ecm did not work well with the 5speed so we swapped in the ecm from the 1990 donor truck.
Nope, it would have been in limp mode, since it didn't see the transmission. You could use the E4OD pcm/ecm/EEC, with the trans harness, connect the MLPS and leave it in neutral. I've heard that will work.

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All is well with the 1990 eec except we keep getting code 41 (no hego) after some diagnostics with the dmm I found that the o2 sensor has no ground at pin 49 on the eec. The e4od eec has continuity between pin 49 ( hego ground) and pin 60( eec ground) but the computer from the 1990 does not.
Not sure if that is a valid test.
Also, the 1990 EEC is probably looking for a 3-wire O2 not a 4-wire, I could be mistaken.
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The parts store shows 3 possiblities ( AMA, ANA, or ZA). Could somebody provide me with the correct. Ecm code fo a 1994 f350 7.5l manual trans with a 4 wire o2 sensor and black ignition module? Or at least tell me how to figure it out cause ive worn google out trying.
What are the 4 digit codes on the computers for the 1990 and the 1994? Or post a picture of the labels on them.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 08:50 AM
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When you look those 3 up they dont even say what trans, like usual, rock auto says out of stock on all 3, and only one (oreillys) have that can be ordered is the ANA-->Cardone Engine Control Module - Remanufactured 78-5856 | O'Reilly Auto
 
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wwhite
Nope, it would have been in limp mode, since it didn't see the transmission. You could use the E4OD pcm/ecm/EEC, with the trans harness, connect the MLPS and leave it in neutral. I've heard that will work.
I have the mlps wiring jumped together now so the auto computer thinks the trans is in neutral. The driveablity issue with the auto computer is engine rpm's not wanting to drop while shifting gears.

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Not sure if that is a valid test.
Also, the 1990 EEC is probably looking for a 3-wire O2 not a 4-wire, I could be mistaken.
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The test proves the either the 02 sensor ground circuit in the 1990 ecm is either shorted or the ecm is looking for a 3 wire sensor.
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What are the 4 digit codes on the computers for the 1990 and the 1994? Or post a picture of the labels on them.
The 1990 computer no longer has any identifying marks on it and I need to cross reference the cardone part number on the 1994 computer to see which one I have, at least that way i can rule out one of the three computer options.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by torq'ta 5 8
When you look those 3 up they dont even say what trans, like usual, rock auto says out of stock on all 3, and only one (oreillys) have that can be ordered is the ANA-->Cardone Engine Control Module - Remanufactured 78-5856 | O'Reilly Auto
Oreilly says they can get all three but the two other than the ana will be shipped in from cardone via ups. I still just need confimation on which one is for a manual. I think it will be the aka but im not sure. If I could get a vin from a 94 with a 460 and a 5 speed I would have this problem in the bag.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 12:46 PM
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F4TF-ZA, F4TF-AMA and F4TF-ANA and are for a F350 truck with a 7.5L engine and E4OD.

F4TF-AKA may be what you are looking for. I found a few references stating it is for a 1994 F250/350 with a 7.5 L engine and a manual transmission.

Prior to ~1991 the 3 wire O2 sensors were grounded through the exhaust system. There was an O2 sensor ground from the PCM (Pin 49) to a spot on the engine block. That is what you are missing to get the O2 sensor circuit to work. But a 1990 PCM is designed to work with the older Push-Start ignition. Your 1994 model year truck uses the newer Computer Controlled Dwell (CCD) ignition therefore the 1990 PCM has other challenges to overcome to work in your 1994 truck.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rla2005
F4TF-ZA, F4TF-AMA and F4TF-ANA and are for a F350 truck with a 7.5L engine and E4OD.

F4TF-AKA may be what you are looking for. I found a few references stating it is for a 1994 F250/350 with a 7.5 L engine and a manual transmission.

Prior to ~1991 the 3 wire O2 sensors were grounded through the exhaust system. There was an O2 sensor ground from the PCM (Pin 49) to a spot on the engine block. That is what you are missing to get the O2 sensor circuit to work. But a 1990 PCM is designed to work with the older Push-Start ignition. Your 1994 model year truck uses the newer Computer Controlled Dwell (CCD) ignition therefore the 1990 PCM has other challenges to overcome to work in your 1994 truck.
This all falls in line with what I have come up with. The 90 ecm was never intended to be a permanent fixture in the swap but it is amazing how well it runs with the wrong ignition set up and no functioning 02 sensor. The aka computer is what my research is pointing too also, confirmation is always nice to have though.

On a side note my curiosity has me wondering what is different among the e4od ecm options. Not that it is relevant or even matters.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 48kenworth
On a side note my curiosity has me wondering what is different among the e4od ecm options. Not that it is relevant or even matters.
E4OD vs Standard/Manual Shift ecm?
The E4OD has extra electronic 'drivers' to actuate the shift solenoids in the trans.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wwhite
E4OD vs Standard/Manual Shift ecm?
The E4OD has extra electronic 'drivers' to actuate the shift solenoids in the trans.
I really meant the difference between the multiple auto transmission computer's. As in fueling, timing, and shift strategies. It doesnt matter I just find those things interesting.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2021 | 06:55 PM
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Fords way of poking the BEAR! Why would we need 18 different ECM strategies, to tell a E4OD shift bitch! Engineers mad at each other, and "mine works better"
 
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Old Oct 16, 2021 | 08:40 AM
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Well I got the right ecm in it and my o2 sensor code is gone, so thats good. Now it is getting an egr code for me to figure out.
 
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One problem down, now onto the next!

Thanks for the update.
 
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