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I was new to the carb game 5 years ago and have soaked up lots of info from these fellas around here and will only say this, if your willing to learn the Holley style tuning get a Holley style carb, the summit carbs seem to be a big hit for price and performance. If your not willing to learn how to tune a Holley then get an edelbrock, there stupid simple, but for a reason, you cant get the same tune-ablility that you can a Holley, I started with a Holley got frustrated, went to an edlebrock and now im a very happy camper with a Holley back on the truck and i think allot of newbies follow that path. If you have an old timer or carb junkie in your family or neighborhood buy him a case a beer and ask him to educate you on the Holley...Also theres that old saying 90% of carb problems are ignition problems... and that is so true, i chased my tail forever with my carbs only to solve problems with my coil, distributor and timing...... so when you start tuning, dont start ripping the carb apart.... If your timing isnt happy with your new carb, its never going to run correctly..... and so on and so forth.... ill shut up now, could preach about this crap all day, i learn everything the hard way 2 or 3 times.
Speak for yourself Brother. I can tune an AVS2 to just as good a tune, and easier than I can a 4150.
Check out a Holley List 9834, It's a 4160, 600 CFM, electric choke, vacuum secondaries and has the Ford auto trans kickdown linkage. I have had one on my 460 since '97.
They haven't made the 9834 in a long time, I believe the replacement is the 80457.
What intake manifold did you order? If it's an Edelbrock, don't expect that projected date to hold. Edelbrock is relocating from CA to MS, and they keep bumping their delivery dates to the right. I had a 7566 on order for a couple of months. The projected deliver date changed four times. A fellow FTE member sold me a good used 7566, and I cancelled the Summit order. I've got a good used 2166 if you need it.
Well that's good to know. I did in fact order the 2166. I'll let it ride for a couple weeks, I may take you up on that offer.
I'd suggest a 750, buy a brand new carb either Holley 80508 or 80770. Or Quick Fuel. Or Holley 1904 750 Street Demon with the space age plastic bowl. Actually that's the best choice. Any of these carbs has some sort of air valve secondary so the carb tailors itself to the engine's air needs. It may need a little tuning, but Holleys are really easy to tune. Parts are available everywhere.
If allergic to Holleys, I'd suggest an 800 Edelbrock Thunder II series. They also are quite easy to tune, but folks aren't as familiar with them. You would just need to find someone who was. There have been problems with Edelbrock 750s in the past, maybe that's all over with, but the 800 is a proven carb.
No sense in starving a big engine for air. None whatsoever. When i was resurrecting my 400 powered '77, the mechanic told me he'd had really good luck with the 80508.
I'd suggest a 750, buy a brand new carb either Holley 80508 or 80770. Or Quick Fuel. Or Holley 1904 750 Street Demon with the space age plastic bowl. Actually that's the best choice. Any of these carbs has some sort of air valve secondary so the carb tailors itself to the engine's air needs. It may need a little tuning, but Holleys are really easy to tune. Parts are available everywhere.
If allergic to Holleys, I'd suggest an 800 Edelbrock Thunder II series. They also are quite easy to tune, but folks aren't as familiar with them. You would just need to find someone who was. There have been problems with Edelbrock 750s in the past, maybe that's all over with, but the 800 is a proven carb.
No sense in starving a big engine for air. None whatsoever. When i was resurrecting my 400 powered '77, the mechanic told me he'd had really good luck with the 80508.
R.
a 600 cfm is enough for a stock 460, you get a bigger carb, you got more tweaking to do to that carb to make it smoother.
So unless you know what you're doing or plan on taking it to someone.
Yes you can run bigger, it takes more knowledge to make it play nice. On the other hand you can take a 600 and turn it into a larger beast, again you need to know your way
around jetting, boosters, metering blocks the whole shebang.
From 79'-87' the engineers at Ford used a 620cfm Holley 4180 square bore on the 460. This is the last of the carborated Ford trucks. There are many who believe Ford finally got it right including myself. Sure there are some quirks but all holley parts are available to you, it can be adjusted at all four conners, and it has Ford linkage. You can pick a builder for $75-$100 send it out to a pro for rebuild for $225-$250 and be into a great Holley 4-barrel for $350. It's like the 4160 but with more bells and whistles.
From 79'-87' the engineers at Ford used a 620cfm Holley 4180 square bore on the 460. This is the last of the carborated Ford trucks. There are many who believe Ford finally got it right including myself. Sure there are some quirks but all holley parts are available to you, it can be adjusted at all four conners, and it has Ford linkage. You can pick a builder for $75-$100 send it out to a pro for rebuild for $225-$250 and be into a great Holley 4-barrel for $350. It's like the 4160 but with more bells and whistles.
too funny my pos 4180 has that same patch on the fuel plug.
just bought a quick fuel slayer. haven't hooked it up yet but it seems to have a lot of features and it's a 4160.
It's going on my 86 460. Will need to buy a kickdown kit for it though.
If you have a 4180 you have the Ford kickdown and you have the base of the 4160. If you couldn't manage the 4180 what makes you think buying the 4160 is going to make things better for you.
too funny my pos 4180 has that same patch on the fuel plug.
Maybe Holley just ain't your thing partner or do you care to expound on your POS comment and enlighten us on why a 4180 is a POS but buying a 4160 which has you in a better scenario for your 460 match up.
If you have a 4180 you have the Ford kickdown and you have the base of the 4160. If you couldn't manage the 4180 what makes you think buying the 4160 is going to make things better for you.
Maybe Holley just ain't your thing partner or do you care to expound on your POS comment and enlighten us on why a 4180 (which is a 4160 base basically) is a POS but buying a 4160 which has you in a better scenario for your 460 match up.
smh
my pos 4180, not the 4180 is a pos. I'm fully aware I have a kickdown on my 4180. The OP doesn't have a 4180 and if he does, than someone already was in there and swapped the 4350 out.
Which isn't the same thing as a 4160.
keep your attitude to yourself partner
smh
my pos 4180, not the 4180 is a pos. I'm fully aware I have a kickdown on my 4180. The OP doesn't have a 4180 and if he does, than someone already was in there and swapped the 4350 out.
Which isn't the same thing as a 4160.
keep your attitude to yourself partner
I apologize for misreading your post. I guess what threw me off was you choosing to buy a 4160 rather than rebuild your 4180 the way it should have been built from the factory. They've got quite a cult following amongst some ford guys these days. As far as my attitude goes I really have earned every bit of it. It may not be a fit in polite company but I was never at home there any way. So indulge me a bit partner because I certainly have no intentions of curtailing my attitude at this juncture in my life It's part of who I am and I couldn't keep it to myself even if I wanted too. So let's be Ford buddies what do you say?
No worries about that 4180, it isn't going anywhere. It will be rebuilt the kit is already here.
I hear you on the who you are part, I'm no different there. and thank you.
Can't have enough ford buddies.
and you have the base of the 4160. If you couldn't manage the 4180 what makes you think buying the 4160 is going to make things better for you. 
buddies what do you say? 
