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Old Sep 24, 2021 | 05:08 AM
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Oil Pressure Problem

Hi,

I have a 1994 Econoline with the 5.0 v8.

It has this annoying problem that, when the car is hot and at idle, the oil pressure gauge starts to bounce up and down violently.
I have replaced the oil pressure switch and the gauge, but with no effect.
I'm suspecting the oil pump to have an issue (?), or from what i read in other posts, that the oil pressure relief valve is bad.
At this point i don't know what to do though - also because replacing the oil pump is such a major task. So i thought i'd ask a couple of questions here:

1. is the bouncing gauge a matter that needs to be addressed, or is t his just a thing that these old vans do and ok not to worry about it too much.
2. where is the oil pressure relief valve located, and can that be replaced without dropping the oil pan?
3. If the pressure is a tad too low, can this be fixed by using a different oil or maybe use an oil additive?
4. how do i best handle this, where to start?

regards. Willem
 
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Old Sep 24, 2021 | 09:38 PM
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I don't have answers but I'm having similar issues with my 1984 e-150 5.0L. I noticed the oil pressure tends to read low, but usually stays on the "n" in "normal" on the gauge. I have only noticed my temperature gauge bouncing a few times after long hours on the road. I have a small oil leak, but it's unclear what the source is. Looks like its coming from connection on the neck of my filler tube.

I'd really like to know the answer to your same questions.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2021 | 05:08 AM
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For oil pressure issues (real or imagined) I'd first determine exactly what pressure the engine is seeing rather than rely on some aged "gauge" reading. If I knew the engine had proper oil pressure I'd install a real electronic OP gauge where its sending unit would replace the factory-installed part.

Since you don't list your current mileage or whether you're using the instrument cluster OP "gauge" as your van came equipped with brand new.

Good luck with your issues----hope its NOT related to the actual engine oil pressure.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2021 | 08:08 AM
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Thanks!I will try and do just that.

Would you by any chance have experience with these:

https://www.technoversions.com/MeterMatch.html

It seems that a metermatch device can convert the signal so it fits the factory gauge.

regards. Willem
 
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Old Sep 27, 2021 | 01:26 PM
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I think the point is to bypass the factory gauge for testing because of designed and unintended signal manipulation. The gauge circuit might be causing false readings..

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Old Sep 28, 2021 | 03:48 AM
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Ok, got it..

Does anyone know which sending unit that would be? Online i can only find the "on/off" type of sender
 
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Old Sep 28, 2021 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by willem_at_work
Ok, got it..

Does anyone know which sending unit that would be? Online i can only find the "on/off" type of sender
Tabijan is correct about my suggestion to temporarily install a pressure reading test gauge at the OP sending unit port on your engine. A new sending unit will tell you nothing.

The factory OP dash "gauge" and sending unit are the simple on/off type, its not a true pressure-reading system. The aftermarket tends to be the place to find an actual gauge and sender for most automotive pressure indications. The brand GlowShift is an okay product although I myself use Auto Meter with their DC stepper motors allowing the pressure sensor to be outside the cabin, The cheapest gauges are mechanical so you'll have engine oil under pressure inside the cabin---not an ideal situation.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2021 | 01:26 AM
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Would you happen to have a part number of one that fits the van? All i can come up with on the internet are the "Switch" type of senders
 
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Good gravy find one specified to fit your year van and engine, buy and install it.

The "switch" type are what Ford installed, when running just the instrument cluster "gauge" that's all that's required---anything else won't work.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2021 | 01:59 PM
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Just go get an oil pressure test kit, remove the oil sending unit attach the pressure gauge and hose assembly, start the van. It should read fairly high psi when cold but as the engine warms it should drop if you're actually having low oil pressure. If you have high miles on your engine, then more than likely you probably have engine sludge build up which clogs the oil pump screen...Honestly for the price of and oil pump and the few hours it'll take to install, I'd lift the engine, drop the pan and just do it...Hell, offer a buddy to come help and tell him you'll buy him beer and pizza, make a day of it.
 
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