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Old Aug 26, 2021 | 10:35 PM
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239 Flathead running hot

1953 F100 with 239 flathead. New temp gauge and two new thermostats. STILL runs three quarters hot. Is this normal?
 
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Old Aug 26, 2021 | 10:47 PM
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Are you looking at the dash gauge? Does it ever go higher, like on hills?

Do you have an infrared laser thermometer you could check temps with? The stock gauges aren't precision gauges. If you have a mechanical gauge that's good quality you could try that in place of the 2-terminal sender unit.

Aside from that, has the radiator been cleaned? Belts tight enough?
 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 09:07 AM
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Yes, just the simple dash gauge. Once it warms up, I haven't noticed much change.

Don't have a laser thermometer, seems like it's time to invest in one.

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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 09:41 AM
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What thermostats do you have in it? 160 or 180? I am running NAPA "better quality" 160's which results in actual running temps just below 190, summer and winter. p/n THM 530060 160 deg
 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 09:52 AM
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Unless it's puking out coolant or showing other signs of being too hot, it is probably normal.
Each of these trucks is an individual and "normal" is only normal for your truck.
Just my 2 cents of course.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jlamberth
Yes, just the simple dash gauge. Once it warms up, I haven't noticed much change.

Don't have a laser thermometer, seems like it's time to invest in one.

Thanks,

JL
Very inexpensive, I got mine at Harbor Freight for $25.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2021 | 02:57 PM
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Thanks for all comments. I have the NAPA 160's in and purchased my thermometer. It was interesting to watch the temps hit 160 and the thermostats opened. It is running between 175 and 180 at a strong idle.

I am happy with the results.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2021 | 06:23 PM
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I was just going to ask about thermostats myself. What are the correct temp stats for these trucks? Mine is a 1952 239 V8. The truck is running fine, but I'm making a list of things to do this winter since I just got the truck and maintenance history is sort of unknown. I'm used to 195 stats in my small block Ford and 300 inline six. Truck has a beautiful new aluminum radiator in it, and it doesn't seem to be running hot or anything, but I'm going to stick new stats in it this winter anyway.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2021 | 07:15 PM
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I went with 160s so it would circulate a little sooner.
 
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The stock temp gauge is adjustable. If your temp is running about normal at 180-185, I would adjust the gauge to be more in the middle. You can test it with a D size battery and adjust the contacts on the back. One side is for starting position and one side is for needle throw.

Or you could leave as is, and know normal is where your needle is. My temp runs right around 182 and needle is dead center on gauge.

JB
 
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Old Oct 7, 2021 | 12:02 PM
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I upgraded the temp gauge with a 12v from Midfifty. I sent them and email and they are sending me a resister free of charge.
 
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What will the resistor do? Is this in a 12v system?
 
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They called it a gauge adjustment resistor.

Yes, 12v
 
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3/4 hot is 180 F in all flathead era gauges. No need to change anything.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2021 | 06:49 PM
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Mine runs just over 3/4. But I have the two temp probes switched from stock. No reason, just me being dumb.

Probably no one will like this, but put the palm of your hand on the bottom of the radiator fins (bumper side where you can get at it). It should be cool enough to leave your hand there for say 3 or 5 seconds (or more maybe depending upon how sensitive or calloused your hands are) before your hand wants you to more it off. Top should be too hot to want to touch for very long. If the bottom is cooler as per above, then temp is ok.
 
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