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Old Aug 25, 2021 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Pugga
Take a quick look through this thread:
https://www.keystoneforums.com/forum...ad.php?t=35938
Page 2 has a good visual. What happens when you put a 4' or 6' level on the bottom of the axle? That will tell you if the axle is actually bowed down or not. It also sounds like the axle being upside down is fairly unlikely based on how the axles are assembled and, if the axle is bowed down, it was either overloaded at some point or something else happened to it to make it that way (axle is bent).

I wouldn't go crazy with the u-bolts, if they're tight, just leave them be, you don't want to over torque them and strip or break them.
that looks like mine, the pictures look the same., and my tire wear to my eyes look pretty normal...

thanks for the link, I think that helps.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2022 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pugga
... snipped ... I wouldn't go crazy with the u-bolts, if they're tight, just leave them be, you don't want to over torque them and strip or break them.
U-bolts are TTY (torque to yield). Here's an article that provides some good information.

https://beattiespring.com/blogs/know...uestion-we-get


 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sunuvabug
U-bolts are TTY (torque to yield). Here's an article that provides some good information.

https://beattiespring.com/blogs/know...uestion-we-get
My *** they are. People have been re-using u-bolts for a hundred years (and counting) without issue. You can torque any fastener to the point where it yields but nobody who's doing things the normal/right/by the book way is going to do that.

Here's some random recommended torque values for various size U bolts.

https://www.etrailer.com/question-275131.html

https://www.eatondetroitspring.com/h...rings-u-bolts/

https://www.autoandtrucksprings.com/...-u-bolt-torque


Here's a random table of bolt torque values at 75-80% of proof load where proof load is slightly less than where things start yielding. You can find tables like that with similar values all over the internet. See how these values are substantially greater than the U bolt torque values?

https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-i...ed-Torque.aspx
 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by arse_sidewards
... snipped ... My *** they are. People have been re-using u-bolts for a hundred years (and counting) without issue. You can torque any fastener to the point where it yields but nobody who's doing things the normal/right/by the book way is going to do that. ... Here's some random recommended torque values for various size U bolts.
Of course, TTY fasteners are designed with an initial torque value whether it's a U-bolt, engine stud etc. That is a given. TTY does not mean tighten as much as you can until it "yields" no more or "feels right". I'll stick to what the design engineers, specialty spring shop experts and the Factory Service Manual states (Pages 204-02-27 "CAUTION Statement" & 204-02-29, #11).
 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sunuvabug
Of course, TTY fasteners are designed with an initial torque value whether it's a U-bolt, engine stud etc. That is a given. TTY does not mean tighten as much as you can until it "yields" no more or "feels right". I'll stick to what the design engineers, specialty spring shop experts and the Factory Service Manual states (Pages 204-02-27 "CAUTION Statement" & 204-02-29, #11).
FFS, are you one of those Reddit engineers that thinks tires magically turn to dust at 6yr one day?


All fasteners can be TTY if you feel like torquing them that much. U-bolts installed in the typical manner are not torqued enough to yield therefore they are reusable.

The spring shop wants to sell hardware, of course they'll stretch the truth to make the sale.
 
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