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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 05:31 PM
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Van Turbo Question

Does the van turbo bolt right up to the SD 99-03? Does it matter which year of van the turbo is from? 98-99 not work on 99-03 SD?

If not a direct bolt up, what is needed to get it bolted up?
 
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 05:44 PM
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I'm going to poop on your parade right up front.

Get a professionally engineered modern turbo. The "van turbo" thing is more disappointing than what you'll put in it and not worth the time or effort.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
I'm going to poop on your parade right up front.

Get a professionally engineered modern turbo. The "van turbo" thing is more disappointing than what you'll put in it and not worth the time or effort.

that’s ok. You don’t know what I’m doing with it so I’ll forgive the thoughtless response.

anyone here have useful information?
 
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 06:19 PM
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Yes it does, but you need an outlet adapter to attach the turbine housing to a super duty downpipe. Riffraff sells them for about $100. All the other attachment points are the same since it's the same comp housing and center cartridge. Any year 7.3 PSD van should be the same. For a towing truck it is fine. I have one I rebuilt with a KC turbine and 5/5 billet wheel in it and was into it for about $700-800 in parts, so it's kind of a bargain play compared to a KC drop in or Borg Warner T4 setup.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandonpdx
Yes it does, but you need an outlet adapter to attach the turbine housing to a super duty downpipe. Riffraff sells them for about $100. All the other attachment points are the same since it's the same comp housing and center cartridge. Any year 7.3 PSD van should be the same. For a towing truck it is fine. I have one I rebuilt with a KC turbine and 5/5 billet wheel in it and was into it for about $700-800 in parts, so it's kind of a bargain play compared to a KC drop in or Borg Warner T4 setup.

Thank you!

I'm planning to buy bellowed up pipes and a delete pedestal already. I'm putting it on an OBS 7.3, so I may not need the downpipe adapter. I'm only going stage 1 or 1.5 so I don't need a real hot/Gucci turbo. It sounds like a wheel and turbine will liven it up. And I can do everything for less than the cost of a drop in turbo. Because of the complexity below, it was easier to ask the simple question and go from there. I just wanted to make sure that I could start buying bellowed UP and pedestal and turbo without finding a massive flaw in the plan before I got finished.

My trucks backstory:
-I have an OBS with a bullnose swap. The bullnose won't fit an intercooler, but I read that the van turbo runs 200 degrees cooler than the SD turbo.
-I want to use the 3" intake plenums for better airflow and power, but I don't have an intercooler so I need this turbo and the Y pipe to fit the 3" plenums.
-I want the easier turbo attachment and removal of the SD, but I don't have firewall clearance for the bypass actuator, so I need a turbo without the bypass valve.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 07:18 PM
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It definitely gets rid of the wastegate actuator, since there is no wastegate. I don't know about the OBS compatibility though...out of my element there. You will see the van turbo has a much smaller outlet adapter than a super duty truck turbo, so you will know if you need the bigger adapter or not. As long as you can retrofit a super duty turbo to an OBS engine then the van turbo will be no different other than the outlet adapter. The vans don't have intercoolers either so they used this larger turbine housing to keep the EGT's down.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandonpdx
It definitely gets rid of the wastegate actuator, since there is no wastegate. I don't know about the OBS compatibility though...out of my element there. You will see the van turbo has a much smaller outlet adapter than a super duty truck turbo, so you will know if you need the bigger adapter or not. As long as you can retrofit a super duty turbo to an OBS engine then the van turbo will be no different other than the outlet adapter. The vans don't have intercoolers either so they used this larger turbine housing to keep the EGT's down.
I read that the outlet is the same as what I measured on my OBS turbo (3 3/4" I believe). Otherwise it's possible with the right up pipes and pedestal. I just don't want to buy these parts twice; once for an OBS setup and then for the SD.
 
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Are the obs manifolds the same so superduty up pipes will work?
For some reason I was thinking drivers side manifold differs frm 94-97 and 99-03
 
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Originally Posted by ESwift
Are the obs manifolds the same so superduty up pipes will work?
For some reason I was thinking drivers side manifold differs frm 94-97 and 99-03
Now that you mention it, there's something different there but I don't remember what or to what model years it applies.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2021 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ESwift
Are the obs manifolds the same so superduty up pipes will work?
For some reason I was thinking drivers side manifold differs frm 94-97 and 99-03
yes, 97.5 ish to 2003 are the same. The 94-97.4 are a little shorter or something.

I have a 99 drivers manifold I picked up this summer.

i just need to find a van turbo and spyder.
 
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Originally Posted by SVandal
that’s ok. You don’t know what I’m doing with it so I’ll forgive the thoughtless response.

anyone here have useful information?
I liked your post so now you have one. Thanks for putting me in my place. Somebody has to.


 
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Old Aug 18, 2021 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
I liked your post so now you have one. Thanks for putting me in my place. Somebody has to.

We have all tried to save someone a headache. Which normally I’d appreciate, but this setup is a completely different situation. Thanks for the like.
 
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