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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 09:42 PM
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Harmonic surprise!

While tearing down my 1976 ford FE390 to put in new gaskets and seals I ran into a surprise when taking off the timing chain cover.
It seems the harmonic balancer spacer cracked and the metal disk was bent.

Any ideas on what would cause this? The crank shaft seems to be good yet. Also, any idea what that thin metal disc is actually called that goes behind the spacer is called so I can get a new one? Along with where to get a reputable correct spacer?


 
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 10:15 PM
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A front end collision on the vehicle or the vehicle the motor came out of. If it was hit that hard or dropped on it's snout it's hard telling what all got damaged without checking every spec on the motor.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 10:19 PM
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No collisions with vehicle and engine was rebuilt in 2007.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 10:53 PM
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Damn, never seen one do that not hit. If rebuilt in '07, maybe was cracked and busted after torquing the crank bolt. Hard on a seal too. Disc is curved looking like a slinger would be.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 10:55 PM
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Most likely, someone installed the balancer with a big hammer, instead of using a balancer installation tool. Or the balancer bolt coulda been over torqued, or the sleeve coulda been defective. I'm leaning toward hammer installation method.

The disc is an oil slinger. Lots of opinions and egos, on whether you should install them. I prefer to install them.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2021 | 12:11 AM
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That does not appear to happen in anytime in the past. Those pieces would not have held together even at idle and poured oil out. What did you do to get it off?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2021 | 12:20 AM
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https://www.summitracing.com/parts/i...BoCB9oQAvD_BwE
 
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Old Aug 15, 2021 | 07:41 AM
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I saw that dampener, and it looks like what came off the engine but it description says It only works with a specific dampener that is over $400.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2021 | 08:22 AM
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Found this in a round a bout way on summit. Isn't balancer specific like the main one that keeps popping up for me.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/i...xoCex0QAvD_BwE
 
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Old Aug 15, 2021 | 11:31 AM
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Try putting in a call out to both the Swapmeet thread and the market place thread for what you need.
 
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Wonder if the keyway didn't line up and was forced on with a big hammer.
 
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Wonder if the keyway didn't line up and was forced on with a big hammer.
I thought of it being at the keyway, but then I saw the key way in the picture on the far side so I gave no more thought to it? .
But you're likely right in that if say a moon shaped key got turned up and stuck, acting like a wedge, maybe it did put enough opposite stress on it as it was either hammered on or pushed on with a bolt, then the key surrendered and laid back down as it was pressed further on?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2021 | 01:43 PM
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Tin is slinger as others have said, Ford wouldn't put it there if it would have saved a penny, I put them back. Never saw a sleeve broken, break is 180 from keyway? Must have been a rebuilt from a big C shop with a hammer. As far as the spacer, every common FE engine had the same. Exception for 427 LeMans engines?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2021 | 02:03 PM
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Replacements are hard to find. The usual problem is that the seal has carved out a groove causing leakage. There are sleeves available to address that issue. The breakage is a concern in that it may be a harbinger of crankshaft damage. Better have a real close look at the crankshaft snout. Barry Rabotnick (Survival Motorsports) is a dealer for Blue Thunder which offers billet replacements for this spacer. Not cheap at $75 but it will be new and guaranteed.
 
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I bought the spacer from summit last week. Seems good. You can run with out the oil slinger no problem. RKD.
 
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