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Rather than hijack another current thread on this topic, I'd thought I'd ask a new towing question specific to my 2022 F-250 that was just delivered. We bought the truck to pull a yet to be purchased fifth wheel, although we did do a fair amount of research on fivers before we ordered the truck. We're looking at small "couples" coaches, primarily in the so-called "half-ton towable" class. Our favorite so far is a Rockwood Ultra-Lite, 2621WS.
Admittedly I was paying more attention to the trucks pulling specs than payload, but I think I'm still okay. What I'm looking for is comments on payload capacity, because the numbers are a bit confusing to me. Cargo capacity is obvious, but I don't know how to use the axle weight ratings. Thanks in advance for your help!
RV Specs: unloaded weight = 8,289#, cargo capacity = 1,615#, hitch weight = 1,404#. I realize that hitch weight might be based on an empty trailer, and 2,000# might be more realistic.
Truck Specs: 2022 F-250 Lariat, CCSB, 4x4, 7.3L, 4.30 Axle, 20" Rims, LT275/65R20E 126/123R Tires. It's not a Tremor, but I did add the 10,000# GVWR sticker in case registration over 10,000# becomes an issue.
Payload is GVWR minus as-built curb weight (includes a full fuel tank), so it’s everything you put in/on the truck after it’s built. This includes an after-market fifth-wheel hitch, cargo, driver, passenger(s), pet(s) flashlights, Altoid mints, everything.
If you want to go by the numbers and are working with a 2,000 lbs. pin weight, then you have 585 lbs. of payload capacity left for everything else.
Your truck’s rear axle curb weight is probably ~2800 lbs. The rear GAWR is 6340 lbs., so official payload is the limitation.
Payload is GVWR minus as-built curb weight (includes a full fuel tank), so it’s everything you put in/on the truck after it’s built. This includes an after-market fifth-wheel hitch, cargo, driver, passenger(s), pet(s) flashlights, Altoid mints, everything.
If you want to go by the numbers and are working with a 2,000 lbs. pin weight, then you have 585 lbs. of payload capacity left for everything else.
Your truck’s rear axle curb weight is probably ~2800 lbs. The rear GAWR is 6340 lbs., so official payload is the limitation.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
Dang, that's going to be cutting it close. I should NOT have stickered to 10,000# GVWR!
Crewzer's explanation is correct for Ford's numbers, though I suspect you will be more like 3.1k on the rear if you have the gooseneck prep and step tailgate.
You will not be close to your rawr with that rv, all the heavy stuff is at the rear of it. Our rv loaded up, we only added 500 lbs to the base weight.
Crewzer's explanation is correct for Ford's numbers, though I suspect you will be more like 3.1k on the rear if you have the gooseneck prep and step tailgate.
You will not be close to your rawr with that rv, all the heavy stuff is at the rear of it. Our rv loaded up, we only added 500 lbs to the base weight.
That's good to know on fiver cargo because I'm totally in the dark on that. Yes, we did get the fifth wheel prep and tailgate step. I haven't even taken delivery of the truck yet, that will be next week. Now thinking I might want to fill the tank and get her weighed first thing.
That's good to know on fiver cargo because I'm totally in the dark on that. Yes, we did get the fifth wheel prep and tailgate step. I haven't even taken delivery of the truck yet, that will be next week. Now thinking I might want to fill the tank and get her weighed first thing.
My truck with a 6.7 weighed 3340 on the rear with fuel fuel, about 2/3 full def tank, me 220 lbs, and maybe 60 lbs of stuff.
Just out of curiosity and with the info provided, is there a way to calculate how much payload I lost by "stickering" the truck at 10,000# GVWR?
None. 10K GVWR is standard for the F-250. The only GVWR option for the F-250 gassers is 9900 lbs.
There are 10,400, 10,600, 10,700, and 10,800 options, but they all require the optional 6.7 Diesel engine. However, the 6.7 + 10R140 weighs ~750 lbs. more than the 7.3 + 10R140, so the net payload gain is at best ~50 lbs.
None. 10K GVWR is standard for the F-250. The only GVWR option for the F-250 gassers is 9900 lbs.
There are 10,400, 10,600, 10,700, and 10,800 options, but they all require the optional 6.7 Diesel engine. However, the 6.7 + 10R140 weighs ~750 lbs. more than the 7.3 + 10R140, so the net payload gain is at best ~50 lbs.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
Fascinating, thanks again. Just out of curiosity, what's the standard GVWR for an F-350?
The “standard” GVWR for an F-350 SRW ranges from 10,100 lbs. to 12,400 lbs., depending on wheels and tires, engine, axle ratio, 4x2 or 4x4, cab type, and bed length.
It’s a bit of a dance, as the a Diesel gets the highest GVWR, but a gas engine gets the highest payload.
For example, our truck is a 2019 F-350 SRW originally with 18” wheels and LT275/65R18E all-season tires, 6.2 gas engine, 4.30 axle ratio, 4x2, crew cab, short bed. The official GVWR is 10,600 lbs., and the as-built payload is 3912 lbs.
The GVWR for the F-350 variant of your truck would be 11,300 lbs.
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