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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 08:56 PM
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Question Loose lug nuts

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The lug nuts on my front tires keep coming loose. I had them tightened by a mechanic, drove it 2 miles, and the nuts were loose enough to turn by hand. I’m stumped. The forum member who restored the truck is stumped. My (old school) mechanics are stumped.

The wheels and lug nuts are not original. I’m replacing those with OEM wheels, new studs and nuts all the way around. Any other ideas?

Thanks,

Mike
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 09:40 PM
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That's what I would do. If they were torqued....that means with a calibrated torque wrench, not an impact...they should stay. I can't think of another reason that they would back off, unless your wheel is warped. Easy and inexpensive enough for the safety factor involved to change all as you intend. (could it even be that one or the other is metric and mismatched??)
 
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Were the lugs replaced?
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by resonateur
That's what I would do. If they were torqued....that means with a calibrated torque wrench, not an impact...they should stay. I can't think of another reason that they would back off, unless your wheel is warped. Easy and inexpensive enough for the safety factor involved to change all as you intend. (could it even be that one or the other is metric and mismatched??)
A couple of interesting ideas. I would *think* I’d feel a warped wheel when driving it … I don’t. My first symptom is when the wheel gets loose the wheel weight is rubbing against the tie rod end.

Waiting on the studs then replacing the whole mess …we’ll see if that fixes it!
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Christmas
Were the lugs replaced?
Doing that now …just ordered new ones for all 4 wheels.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 10:17 PM
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On further thought I would bet the lug nuts wiggles on the stud before it even touches the rim. New correct lugs should fix the problem.
 
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Wheel studs

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Doing that now …just ordered new ones for all 4 wheels.
If you go to a parts house and ask for wheel studs for your truck there is a 90% chance they will give you the wrong ones. You can take an original Ford stud and match it to one in this listing. As you can see there are a gazillion different 1/2-20 studs. If the hub or flange is worn and you can't get a good press fit you can pick another stud with a slightly larger knurl diameter.

 
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Crop Duster
If you go to a parts house and ask for wheel studs for your truck there is a 90% chance they will give you the wrong ones. You can take an original Ford stud and match it to one in this listing. As you can see there are a gazillion different 1/2-20 studs. If the hub or flange is worn and you can't get a good press fit you can pick another stud with a slightly larger knurl diameter.
Helpful chart, Crop Duster. Thank you.
 
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I had this trouble.
I replaced the brakes on the front, including the brake drums. The new brake drums had 2 sets of holes for the studs (10 holes). 5 of the holes measured 1/2" in diameter, the other 5 measured a little bit bigger. Knowing I had 1/2" studs I used the 1/2" holes.
The next morning while driving to work and returning home, I had to stop multiple times and tighten the lug nuts.
When I got home I removed the front wheels and looked closer.
Turns out I should of used the bigger holes that were in the brake drum. The splined portion of the studs are bigger than the threaded portion of the studs and the splined portion was holding the drums out away from the hub just a little bit.
 
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Wow …never would have thought of that. The new drums … were they after market or original equipment?
 
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Originally Posted by Bishicka
Wow …never would have thought of that. The new drums … were they after market or original equipment?
They were aftermarket, I don't recall the brand.
It was the first thing I thought of when I read your post.
I hope you get your issue resolved quickly.
 
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Another remote thought is you have anti-seize on the stud threads. I have been told that excessive antiseize can cause this, I did have this happen once on an F-100 I had, and was told my if a little is good, more is better theory caused my problem. Personally I think being overloaded had a big part in the drive wheels coming loose. On my P-100 I noticed that a couple of the nuts, while the same thread are one size smaller hex than what appears to be originals, so they don't fit the wheel the same. I wonder if that could be a factor on yours, I'm going to check mine today!

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Originally Posted by tinnerjohn
Another remote thought is you have anti-seize on the stud threads. I have been told that excessive antiseize can cause this, I did have this happen once on an F-100 I had, and was told my if a little is good, more is better theory caused my problem. Personally I think being overloaded had a big part in the drive wheels coming loose. On my P-100 I noticed that a couple of the nuts, while the same thread are one size smaller hex than what appears to be originals, so they don't fit the wheel the same. I wonder if that could be a factor on yours, I'm going to check mine today!

John
another helpful idea! Thank you!
 
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Originally Posted by Bishicka
Howdy all,

The lug nuts on my front tires keep coming loose. I had them tightened by a mechanic, drove it 2 miles, and the nuts were loose enough to turn by hand. I’m stumped. The forum member who restored the truck is stumped. My (old school) mechanics are stumped.

The wheels and lug nuts are not original. I’m replacing those with OEM wheels, new studs and nuts all the way around. Any other ideas?

Thanks,

Mike
The easy answer here is you have 60 degree conical lug nuts on wheels that actually require 60 degree bulge lug nuts. A picture of the wheels would be helpful.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2021 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
The easy answer here is you have 60 degree conical lug nuts on wheels that actually require 60 degree bulge lug nuts. A picture of the wheels would be helpful.
oh! the wheels and nuts don't match! I'm not with the truck now but I will send pics ... I'd love to know what is causing this. Thank you!
 
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