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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 04:50 PM
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I need help with math

Hey guys, I'm driving a 65 F100 with the 352. I have changed the transmission, rear gears, and tires to the point where my speedometer is off by ten MPH @ 80.
Therefore my odometer is also off which makes it difficult for me to get a realistic MPG figure. I know it's not much more than 10 MPG if at all because of the nature of the beast, and the way I drive it. The only reason I even care about mileage is that I am switching transmissions, again, but I'm getting overdrive! And I am interested in any changes in fuel usage. Partly to justify the purchase price of a new 5-speed overdrive tranny, and partly because everyone will ask if I get better gas mileage.

So, does anyone know how to factor in the inaccuracy into the MPG equation?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 04:51 PM
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BTW, I have no delusions of paying for this transmission with fuel savings, Just curious mostly.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 05:00 PM
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Dan, you’re asking a lot of us underachievers. For that, I’d have to dig out my abacus, and I’m still tied up looking for the remote. Luck to ya.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 05:46 PM
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Dan, you’re asking a lot of us underachievers. For that, I’d have to dig out my abacus, and I’m still tied up looking for the remote. Luck to ya.
Just push the button on the Roku and the remote will make noise.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 05:57 PM
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Rough reckoning, 12%. So you can use a multiplier of .12, up or down to get your figures.

Does it read 80 when you're really going 70? or the other way around?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 07:12 PM
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Find some roads with the radar speed signs and compare what they display against your speedometer. You could also follow a friend and have them drive at different speeds, in they're own car, and tell you when they reach different speeds. Both of my trucks are off. At about 40mph, one reads close to 5mph fast and the other reads 5mph slow. I just have to remember which truck I'm driving.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 08:15 PM
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I don’t understand the question, basically you fill the tank check your mileage, run it however you wish till your at a half tank, fill the tank again and the number of gallons divided into the number of miles traveled will give you mpg. Do it twice if you wish just to get a rough estimate.....
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 08:47 PM
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Get a friend to follow you and cross check your speed with theirs, based on that you can figure out first your actual speed and secondly your mpg's.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 66ordie
I don’t understand the question, basically you fill the tank check your mileage, run it however you wish till your at a half tank, fill the tank again and the number of gallons divided into the number of miles traveled will give you mpg. Do it twice if you wish just to get a rough estimate.....
but what he’s (correctly) saying is that the mileage will be incorrect. When the speedometer doesn’t read correctly, the miles on the odometer is incorrect by the same factor.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 09:07 PM
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I don't know what trans your talking about but most can be recalibrated with a new speedo gear.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 10:46 PM
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Download a speedometer GPS app to your phone, there should still be some free ones. Then compare your actual speed as read by the app at several points,
say 30, 40, 50, 60 and 70, to make sure the error is consistent (as a percent). If it is, then the math is easy. If your speedometer is reading
12% over, just multiply your miles times 0.88%

So if your odometer claims you went 200 miles on 16 gallons: 200 X .88 = 176 actual miles. 176 / 16= 11 mpg.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 01:33 AM
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Ok, you wanted to know what?

 
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 10:44 AM
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MPH = (TD x RPM)/(336 x GR)

MPH = Miles per Hour
TD=Tire Diameter (in inches)
GR=Gear Ratio

**For MPH in Overdrive, take MPH and divide by OD ratio

eg: 60 MPH, OD ratio of 0.68

OD Corrected MPH =88.23

I would just go ahead and install the 5 speed, then get it all sorted afterwards, no point messing with speedo gears now, only to have to do it again after the swap.

**Probably multiple apps out there that will use your phone as a Speedometer/Odometer
 
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Christmas
I don't know what trans you're talking about but most can be recalibrated with a new speedo gear.
I'm not concerned with calibrating my speedo. I have a T-19 right now by the way. The new transmission that is going in, a TKX 5-speed with overdrive, by Tremec, is coming with both gears for the speedo determined by my final drive (3.70) and my tire size, 31. I'm just trying to get a somewhat accurate MPG figure out of the 1 to 1 high gear I have now to compare to what I will get with overdrive.

To those asking, when I am doing 80, the speedo reads 70. At 40 it reads 35 or so. checked against those radars they put up by the schools.

Thanks guys, I'm okay at math, but figuring out what equation to use, Might as well be speaking greek.

Dan, TK65
 
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 07:59 PM
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The simple solution is that for every 100 miles indicated, you are really going 112 miles. For every 350 miles indicated your really going about 392

Miles X 1.12
 
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