Can we talk torque convertors?
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Pretty sure this is Swamp's opinion on stall as well.
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Thanks guys! This is the kind of info I’m looking for. I wish I could figure out the multi quote thing it would make life a lot easier 😂.
I am limited on knowledge when it comes to transmissions but it did seem like the guy at the shop was trying up sell me. I’m only making ~100-125 hp over stock so I don’t think I need a stage 2 trans.
As far as the “he works on lots of Dodges” there were 2 dodge diesels on the rack when I was there. But, there were also three 7.3 in the parking lot, including mine. I think the guy does good work, he has in the past, but he is a salesman.
So my biggest decisions now are, do I do the work myself so I can use the parts of my choosing, or look for another shop. I have dropped transmissions in the past but I’m a one man show and not sure I want to fight that big *** heavy thing by my self.
Next what do I replace while it’s out. If I’m doing the work the flex plate, torque converter and front seal are getting changed need it or not. The valve body doesn’t look like it’s that difficult to do, but I’ve never done one.
What would y’all recommend for a repair/preventative upgrade list without going overboard.
I don’t mind spending some money to make sure my rig is solid, just not wanting to waste it.
I am limited on knowledge when it comes to transmissions but it did seem like the guy at the shop was trying up sell me. I’m only making ~100-125 hp over stock so I don’t think I need a stage 2 trans.
As far as the “he works on lots of Dodges” there were 2 dodge diesels on the rack when I was there. But, there were also three 7.3 in the parking lot, including mine. I think the guy does good work, he has in the past, but he is a salesman.
So my biggest decisions now are, do I do the work myself so I can use the parts of my choosing, or look for another shop. I have dropped transmissions in the past but I’m a one man show and not sure I want to fight that big *** heavy thing by my self.
Next what do I replace while it’s out. If I’m doing the work the flex plate, torque converter and front seal are getting changed need it or not. The valve body doesn’t look like it’s that difficult to do, but I’ve never done one.
What would y’all recommend for a repair/preventative upgrade list without going overboard.
I don’t mind spending some money to make sure my rig is solid, just not wanting to waste it.
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Banks "Billet" torque converters were manufactured by DACCO. The Banks Billet owner's manual / installation instructions provided the address to DACCO for core credit.
Dacco began, and remains (under a different name) a torque converter re-manufacturing business, and quite a large one at that, rebuilding a reported 4,000 TC's per DAY at it's peak (1 million in calendar year 1998)
The Jordan Company, or more accurately, their alter ego holding company Jordan Industries, Inc, acquired DACCO, and later placed DACCO under what was once one of their subsidiary holding companies called ETX, Inc., which also owned Alma Products, a company in Michigan that supplied torque converters to Ford.
Transtar Industries acquired ETX, Inc, and thus quite a bit of the domestic torque converter manufacturing and re-manufacturing has been consolidated under one business. Transtar renamed DACCO to TC Remanufacturing.
I think it would be difficult to pick out a middle of the road (good quality, but not "wasted money" extreme race ready) torque converter by brand. Even when we can see the fingers dancing around above the strings, it's hard to know who's hand those fingers belong to, when the hands change all the time.
Dacco began, and remains (under a different name) a torque converter re-manufacturing business, and quite a large one at that, rebuilding a reported 4,000 TC's per DAY at it's peak (1 million in calendar year 1998)
The Jordan Company, or more accurately, their alter ego holding company Jordan Industries, Inc, acquired DACCO, and later placed DACCO under what was once one of their subsidiary holding companies called ETX, Inc., which also owned Alma Products, a company in Michigan that supplied torque converters to Ford.
Transtar Industries acquired ETX, Inc, and thus quite a bit of the domestic torque converter manufacturing and re-manufacturing has been consolidated under one business. Transtar renamed DACCO to TC Remanufacturing.
I think it would be difficult to pick out a middle of the road (good quality, but not "wasted money" extreme race ready) torque converter by brand. Even when we can see the fingers dancing around above the strings, it's hard to know who's hand those fingers belong to, when the hands change all the time.
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FishBait, hit the “multi” button on the posts you want to quote. Then hit the reply arrow at bottom left (on my phone) when ready. The reply arrow will keep adding numbers for how many quotes until you’re ready.
Dan, I believe this added to my opinion of the 364.5/73 being too large. It exaggerated the issue whereas more stall would have let the turbo get up into its powerband quicker.
Y2KW57, yes I believe DACCO was the brand I used!!! I ‘think’ Transtar bought out the company I was originally dealing with during my time of inquiring and actually purchasing. Now I’m curious and will have to check my notes later. Hopefully that part was captured.
Dan, I believe this added to my opinion of the 364.5/73 being too large. It exaggerated the issue whereas more stall would have let the turbo get up into its powerband quicker.
Y2KW57, yes I believe DACCO was the brand I used!!! I ‘think’ Transtar bought out the company I was originally dealing with during my time of inquiring and actually purchasing. Now I’m curious and will have to check my notes later. Hopefully that part was captured.
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Update. I decided to let another local shop inspect my trans and give me a quote. Turns out that it was the torque converter and it took the trans out with it. Which I can believe because it was acting pretty bad the day I dropped it off. The guy said the entire system was full of metal fragments and shavings. So I’m looking at a total rebuild. So I’m having it beefed up some while he’s at it. He uses the Precision torque converter that Eswift mentioned above, and replacing the flex plate. He is also having to replacing the input shaft, upgrading some of the internals, and installing the trans go tigger kit. Not what I was wanting to hear but 💩 happens.
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Not sure but I will find out. I asked so many questions but that one slipped my mind. He did say that there was nothing wrong with the one that came out but the shop owner said to replace it due to the issues my year model had with them.
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I was hoping so too. It was pretty obvious by the time I dropped the truck off. I could bump the throttle 500-600 rpm with no response. The ringing rumbling noise got quite a bit worse as well. Plus it’s my luck 😂
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Update. I decided to let another local shop, recommended by Bwguardian, inspect my trans and give me a quote. Turns out that it was the torque converter and it took the trans out with it. Which I can believe because it was acting pretty bad the day I dropped it off. The guy said the entire system was full of metal fragments and shavings. So I’m looking at a total rebuild. So I’m having it beefed up some while he’s at it. He uses the Precision torque converter that Eswift mentioned above, and replacing the flex plate. He is also having to replacing the input shaft, upgrading some of the internals, and installing the trans go tigger kit. Not what I was wanting to hear but 💩 happens.
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Well crap crap crap! Got my truck back yesterday and having some issues. The trans is slipping while shifting into 3rd and OD. Its a pretty obvious 200 to 300 RMP spike plus you can hear and feel it. I also found that they left the old inline filter between the trans and cooler in place. This makes me wonder if they even flushed the cooler. They gave me an itemized receipt with all of the parts but it drives me crazy not knowing if they actually did what I was charged for. Thank goodness it came with a 24 month warranty. I'm going in Monday for them to check it out, I'll see if they get right.
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I always replace the radiator and trans cooler when a tranny take a dump, you will never flush out one complete unless you disassemble the coolers.
I have no clue why most trans shops don't do this considering they are giving warranty.
I have no clue why most trans shops don't do this considering they are giving warranty.
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