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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 04:08 PM
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camper package question

I have the camper package on my 2019 f-450

im hunting around for a lift kit so I can easily run 37" tires

but...one site says fits XYZ, except if there is a camper package

so...does that mean there are additional blocks on camper packages?

also, if there are...maybe I can run 37"s as is?

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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 04:15 PM
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Ill be curious to see what the answer is. I can't think of any difference between an F-450 with, or without the package. SRW there are a couple differences.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 04:27 PM
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I’ll post some pics tomorrow .


 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 05:20 PM
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Aren't F450's a hair taller than F350's? I was able to fit 37x13.5's on my stock F350 with the right wheels, which for me was an 18x9 +18 offset wheel. All I had to do was trim a tiny bit of fender....protector (plastic corner trim piece?) and then bash a pinch weld and throw some paint back on it. And FYI, this is still able to 'flex' out (as much as a stock truck can anyhow).

The 450 looks like it will have a lot more room to move around inside the fender well. I will absolutely be building a suspension for my F450, but It really looks to me that you could stuff a 37" tire in there with out too much trouble in stock form.

My main question is what are you doing for wheels? Proper offset is always crucial to getting a larger tire to fit without suspension work. What lifts/suspension setups are you looking at?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 05:23 PM
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The ride height is the same with or without the camper package. However, the camper package has a rear anti-roll bar that might not work as expected if the truck is lifted.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 05:33 PM
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Here is a pic of a stock f-450 with the wheels I just ordered

These are 37’s


Looks tight so I was thinking of doing a small lift for two reasons

1) the wheel clearance
2) I want to buy fox 2.0 or 2.5 shocks and they do not come in 0 lift. You need a 2” in the front and a 3” in the rear at the min.


 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by acadianbob
The ride height is the same with or without the camper package. However, the camper package has a rear anti-roll bar that might not work as expected if the truck is lifted.
good point

so some tool box anti sway bar spacers might be needed.

 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
Ill be curious to see what the answer is. I can't think of any difference between an F-450 with, or without the package. SRW there are a couple differences.
Me too. I was under the impression the camper package on a F-450 didn't change anything physically other than exchanging a couple bills for the certification on paper. They already come with the rear sway bar and 6000lb front springs.

The wide track front ends have a lot more wheel "swing" when steering than a standard truck so clearance to the fenders might be closer.
 
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
Here is a pic of a stock f-450 with the wheels I just ordered

These are 37’s


Looks tight so I was thinking of doing a small lift for two reasons

1) the wheel clearance
2) I want to buy fox 2.0 or 2.5 shocks and they do not come in 0 lift. You need a 2” in the front and a 3” in the rear at the min.

What is the wheel tire combo on that? 22.5" wheels?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
Here is a pic of a stock f-450 with the wheels I just ordered

These are 37’s


Looks tight so I was thinking of doing a small lift for two reasons

1) the wheel clearance
2) I want to buy fox 2.0 or 2.5 shocks and they do not come in 0 lift. You need a 2” in the front and a 3” in the rear at the min.

Those shocks will work why all the manufacturers put that I dont know.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 07:24 PM
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Tires are Toyo 255/70R22.5

rins are AWM 22.5X6.5 with 10X225MM lug holes. Polished on both sides. I use pvc gaskets so I will be able to rotate the fronts to back outer and back outer to fronts.

bought an extra steel spare so I would have a spare and can rotate the spare out to the rear inners.

plant to mount the spare underneath deflated . I have an onboard 100psi 2gallon compressor.

these are direct bolt on.

Not my number 1 choice, but good enough .

no one could get me my number 1 choice , so I decided to move on.

 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by acadianbob
The ride height is the same with or without the camper package. However, the camper package has a rear anti-roll bar that might not work as expected if the truck is lifted.
How does that rear sway bar differ from the one that comes on an F-450 without the package?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 07:39 PM
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I’ll post pics tomorrow of the rear suspension.

 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lamoon78
Those shocks will work why all the manufacturers put that I dont know.
I was going to say something similar. I might go with some off the shelf Fox 2.5's that were not actually meant for my year of truck, but as long as the length is right, weight of the vehicle is in the same ballpark, and they will otherwise physically fit and or be made to attach, that's all that matters to me.


Originally Posted by speakerfritz
Tires are Toyo 255/70R22.5

rins are AWM 22.5X6.5 with 10X225MM lug holes. Polished on both sides. I use pvc gaskets so I will be able to rotate the fronts to back outer and back outer to fronts.

bought an extra steel spare so I would have a spare and can rotate the spare out to the rear inners.

plant to mount the spare underneath deflated . I have an onboard 100psi 2gallon compressor.

these are direct bolt on.

Not my number 1 choice, but good enough .

no one could get me my number 1 choice , so I decided to move on.
Well the if it's any consolation that setup looks amazing whether it was your first choice or not! What else were you looking at?

Also I wasn't trying to put you off a lift with my previous comment. I was just speculating that it might in fact work with no lift. As to the lift you thinking front level and airbags in back, or lifting front and rear both?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2021 | 07:58 PM
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Lift I was thinking wAs a simple 2.5 in the front and 3 in the back.

front
2.5 spring spacers
sway bar brackets
track bar relocation
pinion arm relocation


rear
2.5 to 3 PMF style blocks with 2.5 angle


this would ive me the minimum for the shocks I am looking at.

i already have 1000lb summosprings in the front and 2500 summo springs in the rear

the 1st wheels were some fuel 22.5x7.5. And on those I probally would have done 255’s or 275’s. Couldn’t get the ones I wanted.

 
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