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Old Jun 23, 2021 | 06:18 PM
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I'd throw some batteries in it and see if the pickup will start. You'll need to turn it over to get any further with it.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 07:30 AM
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Looks like it to me. I also don't see an EGR throttle plate either.
That's what it looks like to me, which means that is not an 03 engine. Which, btw, means the hour meter is not accurate.

EDIT: I suppose someone could have retrofit the ICP over to the valve cover, but that'd be pretty strange. To Don's point, you do have a transplanted engine already. And while I understand his point, IMHO, there's prolly a period - like our trucks are in - where they're not new enough to make the transplant matter much, or old enough, like a classic car, for the transplant to matter. IMHO, that grey area begins once the trucks are 10 years old and banks no longer finance them. From then until they become classics, if ever, value is mostly determined by running condition - will this vehicle make me money or get me to my job reliably so I can make money. Most of the emotion is gone by then, and the engines are old whether original or transplant. But, yeah, all-stock still has a value to the techy guys who work on the cars themselves, just not sure it's a market-maker.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 11:34 AM
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No. Except for the early '04s which had the '03 engine, the following '04s had the ICP on the valve cover.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 11:52 AM
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Build date on door tag is 02/04. I assume that's an early 2004 date? VIN ends in 42276. Anyone know how many built that model year?

Don't know much about truck history, but transplanted engine would surprise me.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 11:52 AM
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Guess I'm losing it. Coulda swore he'd said it was an O3. So, it's a late 04, OK.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by wkf94025
Build date on door tag is 02/04. I assume that's an early 2004 date? VIN ends in 42276. Anyone know how many built that model year?

Don't know much about truck history, but transplanted engine would surprise me.
That is not an early 04. The early 04 production date cut off at 9/29/03.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 12:08 PM
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So does 02/04 build date and engine photo suggest original engine, or transplant?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 12:19 PM
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The vertical orientation of the GPCM is consistent with am 04 produced after Dec 1, 2003.

The presence of a MAF sensor indicates it isn't a mid 2005 (after November 2004).

I assume you don't have an hour meter available on the Instrument Cluster Odometer display (from my recollection that took place in 2005, and only on Lariat and up models, but I could be mistaken on that)? I guess I'll re-read the thread to see if that is mentioned.

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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ine-hours.html

Note - it is VERY common for trucks in the service industry to have hour meters "added on".

Also, the plastic, cold-side, CAC tube was introduced after 04-01-04 production (for the 05 model years). If the engine has a metal one (looks like it does to me), then it is probably an 04 as advertised.

Also, '05's went to an aluminum HPOP cover ....... with the IPR valve mounted on the pump, not the cover.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 01:15 PM
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Well, looky there, I'd never noticed that. It's not just vehicles, nothing in California shows up as not requiring a broker license - forklifts, trailers, dirt bikes, boats, nothing.

Dang, I admit the state is pretty and have spent a lot of time driving around it the last several months, but stuff like this is too much and why I could never live there.

I do suppose that one could claim to be exporting the vehicle overseas and be authorized to bid. If you're going to chop it up in pieces and sell the scrap to a metal recycler, no one would ever know.
You have to provide a dismantlers license or provide the export broker number and insurance. Neither are easy and you have a better chance of getting a liquor license over a new dismantlers license here.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
You have to provide a dismantlers license or provide the export broker number and insurance. Neither are easy and you have a better chance of getting a liquor license over a new dismantlers license here.
As someone who holds a liquor license in CA, and survived the Federal colonoscopy to get that license, I can appreciate the difficulty of becoming a dismantler.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2021 | 01:25 PM
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To give a simple answer, it's most likely an original engine.
 
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