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1996 4x2 E40D shifting problems please help!

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Old May 26, 2021 | 03:46 PM
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If its slipping, you'll burn up the clutches.
Get a pressure tester, put it in the pressure tester port, verify pressure.
Low to no pressure would be bad pump.

Did you replace all bushings in pump and trans?
Did you use assembly goo when you rebuilt it?
I didn't replace any bushings when rebuilding. I will test the pressure. I didn't use assembly goo but I used transmission fluid for everything.
 
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Old May 26, 2021 | 03:50 PM
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Maybe, just maybe it could be the EEC.
Does your old 1996 F-350 7.5L V8 E4OD solenoid pack have the DIODES in it? If it does, does your new pack have them?
Old style vs new style.
If your old pack has them, you need a solenoid pack with them.
If you use a solenoid pack without the diodes, you need an EEC that has them.
Using a solenoid pack without them when you need them, will cause EEC failure.

Also, some trans filters fall out, as they are pressed in.
​​​​​​​Did you notice if your filter was in properly last time the pan came off?
 
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Old May 26, 2021 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wwhite
Maybe, just maybe it could be the EEC.
Does your old 1996 F-350 7.5L V8 E4OD solenoid pack have the DIODES in it? If it does, does your new pack have them?
Old style vs new style.
If your old pack has them, you need a solenoid pack with them.
If you use a solenoid pack without the diodes, you need an EEC that has them.
Using a solenoid pack without them when you need them, will cause EEC failure.

Also, some trans filters fall out, as they are pressed in.
Did you notice if your filter was in properly last time the pan came off?
The filter was pressed it properly, though a little saggy. The old solenoid pack has the diodes and an exposed pcb, the new one I am not sure if it has the diodes, I believed i compared the two and thought they were the same but the new pcb has a cover on the top of it. I can take a look at that when pressure testing, i also have a third one that came with the valve body and accumulator body, so that could be the one I need. But the problem was present before changing the solenoid pack out.
 
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Old May 26, 2021 | 04:07 PM
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But the problem was present before changing the solenoid pack out.
Did you replace the front pump?
Inspect and verify clearances?
 
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Old May 26, 2021 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wwhite
Did you replace the front pump?
Inspect and verify clearances?
I did not replace the front pump, I opened it up and did a visual inspection then put it back together.
 
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Old May 26, 2021 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Valyn Andorfer
I was the one who rebuilt the transmission so I don't doubt I screwed something up, I remember that seal in particular being a pain in the ***. Would that explain why when the fluid is low reverse works after a couple of seconds instead of having to give it gas?
No, that is totally opposite of what I would expect from low fluid.
 
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Old May 28, 2021 | 05:53 PM
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Okay I did the pressure test on the transmission and these are the results:

P: 60 psi
R: 30 psi
N: 30 psi
D: 60 psi
2: 60 psi
1: 60 psi

Could this indicate an internal leak like a seal in a piston or a leak in the valve body?

Also should there be ATF coming out the pressure port when it sat for a while and before turning it on?
and my ATF level reads way above full when the truck is turned off, is that normal?
 
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Old May 28, 2021 | 06:09 PM
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This is the link to the engine shuddering video I uploaded to my YouTube account
 
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Old May 28, 2021 | 09:04 PM
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Reverse is very low. That indicates a leak in the reverse circuit. It could be a clutch seal, or something along the way to the clutch. I can't remember if reverse pressure goes through the feedbolts. If it does, a loose feedbolt could be the problem. The feedbolts are located between the valve body and the case.
 
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Old May 28, 2021 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
Reverse is very low. That indicates a leak in the reverse circuit. It could be a clutch seal, or something along the way to the clutch. I can't remember if reverse pressure goes through the feedbolts. If it does, a loose feedbolt could be the problem. The feedbolts are located between the valve body and the case.
I tourqued those down to spec and the new ones came with loctite on them , but I will double check when I get inside there to do the air test. I am pretty sure I tested the reverse piston which worked before I put everything else back on and it was dry. My transmission was overheated before I got it and that was evident by the paper valve body gaskets since they were stuck to the valve body, so I got a razor blade and scraped it off, so there could be some knicks in there, maybe I will try to tourque things a little tighter than usual when i go to put it back together after air test. But would a leak like that be a huge problem? I should double check the check ***** too, I had some different sizes and the document I got labeled them as either BS or CS i believe so I was not sure what size to put where but I had enough big ones for all the locations, I checked them recently and none fell into the accumulator body.
But the weird thing is when the fluid reads low reverse seemingly works with a slight delay instead of requiring higher rpms. I was going to try to fill the tranny to the line while cold and off to see if that yields a better result but I had to leave before that.
 
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Don't fill it cold.
 
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