Parking brake on automatic
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I see what you did there. I'll just leave this here.
https://youtu.be/1U-gVZyvIsw
https://youtu.be/1U-gVZyvIsw
I didn’t see any reverse light blink before he shut it off so I’m guessing it was left in drive and not actually a parking pawl failure. But yes, consistent use of the “parking brake” would have prevented this mishap.
I’m living on the edge.
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Seriously though, I always left all my manual transmission vehicles in gear when parked because you never know when a parking brake might fail too. If it was a track vehicle that had just come in from some laps and the brakes were hot, then the vehicle got parked in gear and the wheels were chocked, leaving the parking brake disengaged so the pads wouldn’t burn themselves on the hot rotor. The point is to never have a situation where a single point of failure can cause your vehicle to drift away unexpectedly.
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Well I call it an “emergency brake” so….
My take on this is even funnier if you knew what I did for a living. Sorry, can’t say though.
I have had issues in the past with sticking “parking brakes”. Especially with higher mileage and rarely driven vehicles. It has kinda made me gun shy. Yep I could fix them, but they seem to stick unexpectedly at the most inconvenient times. The pawl will hold my stuff under most normal conditions and I reserve the E brake for emergency situations.
Now back when I had the OBS with the ZF the brake was used frequently during trailer connection timing.
My take on this is even funnier if you knew what I did for a living. Sorry, can’t say though.
I have had issues in the past with sticking “parking brakes”. Especially with higher mileage and rarely driven vehicles. It has kinda made me gun shy. Yep I could fix them, but they seem to stick unexpectedly at the most inconvenient times. The pawl will hold my stuff under most normal conditions and I reserve the E brake for emergency situations.
Now back when I had the OBS with the ZF the brake was used frequently during trailer connection timing.
You forget, I DO KNOW what you do for a living... We have had this conversation on the phone before...
They only stick until you burn them up... Then, they will be new or non-functioning.
All good @RacinJasonWV and when we are laughing about this over a cold beverage at the PA GTG, it will be good times.
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Seriously though, I always left all my manual transmission vehicles in gear when parked because you never know when a parking brake might fail too. If it was a track vehicle that had just come in from some laps and the brakes were hot, then the vehicle got parked in gear and the wheels were chocked, leaving the parking brake disengaged so the pads wouldn’t burn themselves on the hot rotor. The point is to never have a situation where a single point of failure can cause your vehicle to drift away unexpectedly.
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Well I call it an “emergency brake” so….
My take on this is even funnier if you knew what I did for a living. Sorry, can’t say though.
I have had issues in the past with sticking “parking brakes”. Especially with higher mileage and rarely driven vehicles. It has kinda made me gun shy. Yep I could fix them, but they seem to stick unexpectedly at the most inconvenient times. The pawl will hold my stuff under most normal conditions and I reserve the E brake for emergency situations.
Now back when I had the OBS with the ZF the brake was used frequently during trailer connection timing.
My take on this is even funnier if you knew what I did for a living. Sorry, can’t say though.
I have had issues in the past with sticking “parking brakes”. Especially with higher mileage and rarely driven vehicles. It has kinda made me gun shy. Yep I could fix them, but they seem to stick unexpectedly at the most inconvenient times. The pawl will hold my stuff under most normal conditions and I reserve the E brake for emergency situations.
Now back when I had the OBS with the ZF the brake was used frequently during trailer connection timing.
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As for making the cable brake 
work again...In addition to the aforementioned cable chafes on the frame, there are actuator assemblies in the back plate of the brake system, which rust fast and will result in the cable brakes not working. To get to them, you have to tear the brakes apart and either replace them or work on them to get them functional.
work again...In addition to the aforementioned cable chafes on the frame, there are actuator assemblies in the back plate of the brake system, which rust fast and will result in the cable brakes not working. To get to them, you have to tear the brakes apart and either replace them or work on them to get them functional.
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P-brake or E-brake, it is what it is...
You forget, I DO KNOW what you do for a living... We have had this conversation on the phone before...
They only stick until you burn them up... Then, they will be new or non-functioning.
All good @RacinJasonWV and when we are laughing about this over a cold beverage at the PA GTG, it will be good times.
You forget, I DO KNOW what you do for a living... We have had this conversation on the phone before...
They only stick until you burn them up... Then, they will be new or non-functioning.
All good @RacinJasonWV and when we are laughing about this over a cold beverage at the PA GTG, it will be good times.
And I hope the E vs P came across as funny. That was the intent. Although it was the truth as I must be an old geezer since it truly is an E brake to me.
Seriously though, I always left all my manual transmission vehicles in gear when parked because you never know when a parking brake might fail too. If it was a track vehicle that had just come in from some laps and the brakes were hot, then the vehicle got parked in gear and the wheels were chocked, leaving the parking brake disengaged so the pads wouldn’t burn themselves on the hot rotor. The point is to never have a situation where a single point of failure can cause your vehicle to drift away unexpectedly.
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As for making the cable brake work again...In addition to the aforementioned cable chafes on the frame, there are actuator assemblies in the back plate of the brake system, which rust fast and will result in the cable brakes not working. To get to them, you have to tear the brakes apart and either replace them or work on them to get them functional.
work again...In addition to the aforementioned cable chafes on the frame, there are actuator assemblies in the back plate of the brake system, which rust fast and will result in the cable brakes not working. To get to them, you have to tear the brakes apart and either replace them or work on them to get them functional.
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How many times did you have to type that out before you were happy with it?
You should write CL ads for a living...
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OK, you’ve got me there. 
As do some other makes. Which I believe may have a lot to do with people doing things like seen in your video. Can’t roll away due to forgetting to put in park if the PARKING brake comes on itself…
As do some other makes. Which I believe may have a lot to do with people doing things like seen in your video. Can’t roll away due to forgetting to put in park if the PARKING brake comes on itself…
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