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Old May 26, 2021 | 09:58 AM
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Colorado350; So how many miles on them now and ware pattern good? Thanks for the link. I was going to order the coopers today but there is about a $55 difference. But if they don't last as long is that up front savings worth the price of having to replace them say 20k sooner. The one guy on the link said he only got 30k out of them.
Im actually driving the truck today, I have 14,981 miles on them and they’re sitting at just over 10/32 tread.

Here’s a picture of them as of today...VERY even wear. The traction as been outstanding in snow and wet conditions. They are very quiet too, I’ll definitely be buying them again.

 
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Old May 26, 2021 | 10:20 PM
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Doing some math from Colorado's post in 2019 and todays. Don't know if my math is correct or not but here is what I get for tire ware.
2019 post at 10,396 miles you said you used 4/32. So
10,396 divided by 4= 2,599 miles per 32 used of tire tread x 17/32 new tire depth= 44,183 miles for the life of the tire and that's running them bald. Not terrific mileage but gets worse using your currant numbers.
14,981 " 7 = 2,140 x 17= 36,382
don't know if anyone out there has info on how long they ran there Falkens for a true mileage comparison Some on here said they have gotten 70k on their Coopers which makes my point earlier about the up front savings vs the long term mileage.

Also what is Centramatic Balancers?
 
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Old May 27, 2021 | 12:43 AM
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I know that the Coopers are 60,000 miles and it's hard for me to tell because I had the Cooper Discovery on my other truck so I have the dealer to take them off and to install them on my truck now, I have about 33,000 miles on my truck now but I would guess that I have about 50,000 or so miles.
 
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Old May 27, 2021 | 05:14 AM
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Cooper discovery's I could get 50K with heavy towing. The AT3, just as long if not more.
 
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Old May 27, 2021 | 11:05 AM
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Doing some math from Colorado's post in 2019 and todays. Don't know if my math is correct or not but here is what I get for tire ware.
2019 post at 10,396 miles you said you used 4/32. So
10,396 divided by 4= 2,599 miles per 32 used of tire tread x 17/32 new tire depth= 44,183 miles for the life of the tire and that's running them bald. Not terrific mileage but gets worse using your currant numbers.
14,981 " 7 = 2,140 x 17= 36,382
don't know if anyone out there has info on how long they ran there Falkens for a true mileage comparison Some on here said they have gotten 70k on their Coopers which makes my point earlier about the up front savings vs the long term mileage.

Also what is Centramatic Balancers?
Here’s a link....
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...installed.html

First let me just clarify that I don’t care what tires are you end up getting... I know some people are all about getting people to follow them and buy what they bought. One thing to keep in mind with tires is typically a harder compound will last longer but the trade-off is cold-weather traction. A harder compound typically does not have the same traction in winter time that a softer compound has and therefore The softer compound gives you better traction but the trade-off is mileage. This is why true snow tires do better in winter time because the compound is softer and they stayed more pliable providing better stopping in cold weather. So keep that in mind with whatever tire you decide to buy if you deal with snow and cold weather. Personally, I will give up a few thousand miles of longevity for better traction over the life, aka every day use of a tire.
 
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Old May 27, 2021 | 06:14 PM
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Ok I understand the process as I sell the beads that go into the tire. Most of my customers are still very skeptical on the beads but I had no idea these existed. I like the idea of my tires always being balanced even as they ware. Are the discs made out of iron or aluminum? Just concerned on corrosion and how long they would last.

I'm going to make my own decision but always ask a lot of questions when something is new to me especially it comes to safety. I now pay a lot more attention to tires after a friend of my was killed after a tire blow out. He had the vehicle tires inspected too before there big trip on a Boy Scout outing. Luckily no one else was hurt in the accident. But now I pay a lot more attention to tires and even warn others when I see a problem. I'ts amazing how most people don't care.

Anyway I was still 50/50 on the Coopers vs the Falkens and would have enjoyed the up front savings on the tire purchase as I've had a lot of big expenses lately. But I'm always long term and it seems like the majority here is for the Cooper brand with the Falkens nipping at it's tread. My first decision needs to be a good one that's why I ask the wisdom of the forum first and not someone trying to sell me across the tire store counter.. Which ever I get for now are getting bagged and put in the basement for a year or so. The truck has Yokohamas on it now and there is still a few thousand miles on them. That will get me something to compare with after I make the swap. Hoping to get the bottom end of the engine block flushed out this weekend so I can get the new ELC coolant in it and start driving this thing.
 
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Old May 27, 2021 | 07:05 PM
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Ok I understand the process as I sell the beads that go into the tire. Most of my customers are still very skeptical on the beads but I had no idea these existed. I like the idea of my tires always being balanced even as they ware. Are the discs made out of iron or aluminum? Just concerned on corrosion and how long they would last.

I'm going to make my own decision but always ask a lot of questions when something is new to me especially it comes to safety. I now pay a lot more attention to tires after a friend of my was killed after a tire blow out. He had the vehicle tires inspected too before there big trip on a Boy Scout outing. Luckily no one else was hurt in the accident. But now I pay a lot more attention to tires and even warn others when I see a problem. I'ts amazing how most people don't care.

Anyway I was still 50/50 on the Coopers vs the Falkens and would have enjoyed the up front savings on the tire purchase as I've had a lot of big expenses lately. But I'm always long term and it seems like the majority here is for the Cooper brand with the Falkens nipping at it's tread. My first decision needs to be a good one that's why I ask the wisdom of the forum first and not someone trying to sell me across the tire store counter.. Which ever I get for now are getting bagged and put in the basement for a year or so. The truck has Yokohamas on it now and there is still a few thousand miles on them. That will get me something to compare with after I make the swap. Hoping to get the bottom end of the engine block flushed out this weekend so I can get the new ELC coolant in it and start driving this thing.

This is the Company that you want to go with, they sell a quality product. https://www.centramatic.com/balancers.rhtml. They will be able to answer all your questions, and regarding longevity and corrosion I don’t see that being a problem in that semi‘s have been using them for hundreds of thousands of miles, and they see way more road chemicals than the average user. I would give Centramatic a phone call and get first-hand information. I believe it was Y2K that bought CB’s from a different company and had extensive problems with fit.
 
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Old May 28, 2021 | 04:35 AM
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I'm only 75, but I agree with the old guy! Michelins!
 
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Old May 31, 2021 | 09:02 PM
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In my opinion, everyone contributing to this thread has been respectful, helpful and not pushy about what tire model or brand you choose.

I myself have said a couple of times that you should go with your gut feeling regardless of what anyone here says. Or something similar to that, as well as in your other thread in the 7.3L sub-forum.

I just towed our 5th wheel to ID from GA and now have close to 50,000 miles on the Cooper ST MAXX. They are on track to get 70,000 miles and that is towing heavy 90% of the time.

All terrains... Rock, gravel, dirt, concrete, asphalt, grass, mud, etc... No snow, I don't drive the truck in snow. But, if I did, I suspect the 4x4 and Coopers would do well, as long as I didn't drive beyond the conditions. I have lived in snowy conditions including north of the arctic circle in Alaska.

Don't let my GA location fool you, I selected north GA to retire due to my experience in frigid climates.

Like Colorado350, I am not concerned about what tires you purchase, as long as you are happy with them and have confidence in them.

I am hopeful Cooper will retain their quality control as Goodyear takes over, but if not then I will look into Falken, Toyo or another manufacturer.

As for the guy that said he got 30,000 miles out of the Cooper, that could be true. But, most people go to forums to complain and will not provide the full story.

For every single complaint, there are hundreds of happy customers in most cases.

Good luck with your choice and choose with confidence.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2021 | 08:02 PM
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Ok great, the decision has been made and the tires ordered. Got to say I couldn't have made a decision that I would have been comfortable with without all your experiences. I did go with the Cooper Discovery STT MAXX. Mostly what swayed me was traction on and off road and the wearability. I possibility would have gone with a cheaper line and hoped for the best but my gut was telling me to get advise. Being this is my first diesel truck and no experience towing a big camper. I couldn't have be able to to the upgrades on the truck and made decisions I was comfortable with. The person that told me about only getting 30 some k on their tires was not on this forum and he was referring to the Falkens not the Coopers. That's why the math was so important to me.
Also got to tell you this tire shortage is real and prices are going up as we speak. I waited 5 days to get into a new billing cycle because I was under water last month with living expenses and paycheck. Well it cost me an extra $80 to do that. Tires went up in that time and my Ford dealer cut me a brake and their vender cut them a break otherwise it would have been over a hundred dollars more. So if you need tires get them now before price is outrageous or you can't get them at all.
Thanks again!
 
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 03:14 AM
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Congrats! Please give us a review on them I will be needing some tires pretty soon about the end of summer or a little before.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 08:34 AM
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Congrats, lets see the new shoes when you can.
 
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Well done on pulling the trigger and being happy with your choice. We look forward to pictures when you get them mounted.

 
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 09:25 PM
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Got a call today from my Ford dealer that 5 came in and the last 2 next week. It's going to be a while before I mount them. There is a couple of thousand miles left on the current Yokohama's so I'll probably run the summer with them but I'll be sure to save this tread and post the pics when it happens. Now if I find a camper before that I will get them mounted as I don't want to take a chance with the ones on the truck now. I purchased the truck from a deck building company and who knows how many nail punctures have been pugged. Wouldn't want to take a chance on a blow out.
This weekend I'm getting plates and insurance on it as I will complete the interior and take it on it's madden voyage. It's been November of 2019 since I've driven it.
Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by GotAll4
Ok great, the decision has been made and the tires ordered. Got to say I couldn't have made a decision that I would have been comfortable with without all your experiences. I did go with the Cooper Discovery STT MAXX. Mostly what swayed me was traction on and off road and the wearability. I possibility would have gone with a cheaper line and hoped for the best but my gut was telling me to get advise. Being this is my first diesel truck and no experience towing a big camper. I couldn't have be able to to the upgrades on the truck and made decisions I was comfortable with. The person that told me about only getting 30 some k on their tires was not on this forum and he was referring to the Falkens not the Coopers. That's why the math was so important to me.
Also got to tell you this tire shortage is real and prices are going up as we speak. I waited 5 days to get into a new billing cycle because I was under water last month with living expenses and paycheck. Well it cost me an extra $80 to do that. Tires went up in that time and my Ford dealer cut me a brake and their vender cut them a break otherwise it would have been over a hundred dollars more. So if you need tires get them now before price is outrageous or you can't get them at all.
Thanks again!
I have the Cooper ST Maxx's on my '17 F250 and am happy with them for the past 3000 miles. They are a tad noisy compared to the Duratrac's I had on my F150, which doesn't bother me. I have a gravel driveway, and the tread spacing allows the tires to pick up multiple #57's every time I drive down the driveway. So far, that's the only complaint I can come up with.


Good luck!
 
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