autohubs worthless unless moving
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autohubs worthless unless moving
anyone else have an issue with autohubs? Was climbing a snowy hill on a back trail. Had it in 4wd. Got stuck. Stupid truck wouldnt move in 4wd with elocker engaged. dug it out and got it to move a bit but slid into a small gully. Turns our the front wheels weren't turning. By the time I figured it out, I was in way to tight a spot to try to get it out.
WTF are autohubs worth if they don't work. As soon as I locked them in the front started turning, but it was too late. had to have a dodge pull me out by dragging my *** end sideways out of the gulley.
WTF are autohubs worth if they don't work. As soon as I locked them in the front started turning, but it was too late. had to have a dodge pull me out by dragging my *** end sideways out of the gulley.
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anyone else have an issue with autohubs? Was climbing a snowy hill on a back trail. Had it in 4wd. Got stuck. Stupid truck wouldnt move in 4wd with elocker engaged. dug it out and got it to move a bit but slid into a small gully. Turns our the front wheels weren't turning. By the time I figured it out, I was in way to tight a spot to try to get it out.
WTF are autohubs worth if they don't work. As soon as I locked them in the front started turning, but it was too late. had to have a dodge pull me out by dragging my *** end sideways out of the gulley.
WTF are autohubs worth if they don't work. As soon as I locked them in the front started turning, but it was too late. had to have a dodge pull me out by dragging my *** end sideways out of the gulley.
EDIT: PS. When ever I would go out where there “MIGHT” be a chance of failure, I would turn them to “LOCK” before ever needing them. That way when I flipped the switch on the dash, I always had 4WD.
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Thanks, It appears that for whatever reason, there was not enough vacuum to engage them,.
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All fair points. And, definitely will manually engage b4 I need them next time on the trail. Cheers.
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I would have thought. I was in the middle of nowhere on a trail. The guy who gave my rear and a jerk out of the gulley was a local mechanic. He said the auto hubs don't work at low/no speed. Honestly, we usually take the Rover in snow and I just never have to think about it. We were six hours from home looking for property and fortunately, my real estate agent had a friend who new where we were. Oh well. lesson learned.
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I would have thought. I was in the middle of nowhere on a trail. The guy who gave my rear and a jerk out of the gulley was a local mechanic. He said the auto hubs don't work at low/no speed. Honestly, we usually take the Rover in snow and I just never have to think about it. We were six hours from home looking for property and fortunately, my real estate agent had a friend who new where we were. Oh well. lesson learned.
IIRC, back in the early 80’s GM had some auto hubs that would not work unless moving; but that was like 40 years ago.
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Slightly off topic, I find when I switch from 4WD to 2WD it takes a few feet of rolling before the 4WD disengages. Same on last 4 Ford superdutys. I wonder if the same delay occurs when engaging 4WD and that’s what the OP experienced.
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I would say no. I have been in situations like on wet grass, switched to 4WD and could hear the hubs engage (when I could still hear)! Did not need to move a couple feet; just switched to 4HI and gave it slight throttle, click-click, and drove away.
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1, If we are going to nitpick your and you're, lets all point our that there has not been a Dodge truck made since 2009! It's RAM now, even says it in two foot letters on the tailgate.
2, The tire needing to rotate for the auto-hub to engage thing, There is a chance, that when they engage, the splines on the axle do not line up correctly with the splines on the hub. People argue, you have to be moving so the tire turns the hub, then when the splines do all line up, they will slip together and lock up. However this missed two key points, 1, once the transfer case engages, the axle starts turning and will line up one the splines, they do not know if the hub, axle, or both are turning, as long as you don't just smash the peddle to the floor, and let the axle turn slowly it will work, 2, the same misalignment can happen when turning the hub to lock manually, if the splines hit head on, rather then meshing together, they will require the hub, axle or both to rotate so they can mesh together.
2, The tire needing to rotate for the auto-hub to engage thing, There is a chance, that when they engage, the splines on the axle do not line up correctly with the splines on the hub. People argue, you have to be moving so the tire turns the hub, then when the splines do all line up, they will slip together and lock up. However this missed two key points, 1, once the transfer case engages, the axle starts turning and will line up one the splines, they do not know if the hub, axle, or both are turning, as long as you don't just smash the peddle to the floor, and let the axle turn slowly it will work, 2, the same misalignment can happen when turning the hub to lock manually, if the splines hit head on, rather then meshing together, they will require the hub, axle or both to rotate so they can mesh together.
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1, If we are going to nitpick your and you're, lets all point our that there has not been a Dodge truck made since 2009! It's RAM now, even says it in two foot letters on the tailgate.
2, The tire needing to rotate for the auto-hub to engage thing, There is a chance, that when they engage, the splines on the axle do not line up correctly with the splines on the hub. People argue, you have to be moving so the tire turns the hub, then when the splines do all line up, they will slip together and lock up. However this missed two key points, 1, once the transfer case engages, the axle starts turning and will line up one the splines, they do not know if the hub, axle, or both are turning, as long as you don't just smash the peddle to the floor, and let the axle turn slowly it will work, 2, the same misalignment can happen when turning the hub to lock manually, if the splines hit head on, rather then meshing together, they will require the hub, axle or both to rotate so they can mesh together.
2, The tire needing to rotate for the auto-hub to engage thing, There is a chance, that when they engage, the splines on the axle do not line up correctly with the splines on the hub. People argue, you have to be moving so the tire turns the hub, then when the splines do all line up, they will slip together and lock up. However this missed two key points, 1, once the transfer case engages, the axle starts turning and will line up one the splines, they do not know if the hub, axle, or both are turning, as long as you don't just smash the peddle to the floor, and let the axle turn slowly it will work, 2, the same misalignment can happen when turning the hub to lock manually, if the splines hit head on, rather then meshing together, they will require the hub, axle or both to rotate so they can mesh together.
Sometimes almost took two people to get the hubs locked. One to bump the clutch a bit wile one turned to **** on the hub. Things have improved over the years in many ways.
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