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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 07:49 AM
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Odometer Rollback or Swap Needed

I just purchased a 1998 F150 with 197000 miles on it. Its a manual and has the base analog gauge cluster. I bought a used analog gauge cluster that has a tach to replace it, but the odometer has over 221,000 miles on it. So I want to swap out the gauge cluster but maintain the correct odometer reading.

So if anyone can direct me on how to either rollback the mileage on the replacement to match or how to swap out the odometers, I would appreciate it very much.
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 09:10 AM
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what difference does 20K miles make on a 23 year old truck ?
 
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 09:18 AM
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what difference does 20K miles make on a 23 year old truck ?
Absolutely none.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MZX
So I want to swap out the gauge cluster but maintain the correct odometer reading.
It's illegal to do what you ask, which makes it against the TOS for this website. Your best bet is to document the cluster purchase and what the mileage was on both the old and new clusters at the time of the swap. That way should you ever sell the vehicle you can prove what the actual mileage is.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by alloro
It's illegal to do what you ask, which makes it against the TOS for this website. Your best bet is to document the cluster purchase and what the mileage was on both the old and new clusters at the time of the swap. That way should you ever sell the vehicle you can prove what the actual mileage is.
I think this is the best answer.

Some states still require the mileage to be disclosed and once i switch this over, they will not match.

Thank you everyone for your responses.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by alloro
It's illegal to do what you ask, which makes it against the TOS for this website. Your best bet is to document the cluster purchase and what the mileage was on both the old and new clusters at the time of the swap. That way should you ever sell the vehicle you can prove what the actual mileage is.
It's actually not illegal at all and is done daily. These clusters can be set to whatever mileage you need. Lots of people that offer the service and there is a very well respected member here "Livinitup" that does cluster programming albeit not on trucks this old.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 10:33 AM
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I’ve only tach cluster swapped into a ‘94 Ranger and those gauges were made to where you could swap the whole odometer unit out. I don’t believe the newer ones are that easy.

You’ll probably have to pull needles off and lift the gauge face off to make this work. Then you have to make sure the gauges don’t get all out of whack without the needles to keep them zeroed out. Rolling the odometer backwards breaks them, IIRC.

Frankly, there are enough clusters out there that you should be able to find one closer to your mileage to where you can drive around until they match or thereabouts. Or enlist a cluster repair shop’s help.

See if this helps:

 
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Old Apr 14, 2021 | 11:40 AM
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Thanks Johnny Paycheck. That video was very insightful.
 
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My 97s odo quit at 158K so I wouldn't worry about the ODO - it may die soon anyway.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2021 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by alloro
It's illegal to do what you ask, which makes it against the TOS for this website. Your best bet is to document the cluster purchase and what the mileage was on both the old and new clusters at the time of the swap. That way should you ever sell the vehicle you can prove what the actual mileage is.
Actually, it is quite legal to do so, providing you are preserving the correct mileage. Early in the S197/D2S Mustang's life, MyColor cluster upgrades were quite popular and Ford had a special 1-800 number set up to allow dealers to perform the upgrade and preserve the correct odometer reading. On my 1987 RX-7, which had a cable-driven speedometer, it could be rolled backwards by using Reverse ala Ferris Bueller. In contrast, my previous 1995 Mirage (also cable-driven) had an anti-rollback mechanism similar to a ratchet. Didn't stop me from performing the exact same upgrade for the exact same reason (tachometer) though. Had to take 6000 miles off the new one so it would match correctly. Later, it got a Japan-spec Evo 1 cluster whose odometer was in Kilometers. Did the math, and had to spin it forward 100,000 km so it would register the correct reading (165k miles= ~265k kilometers)

Disassemble, match your old odometer, reassemble, then install. And definitely CYA by documenting the upgrade.
 
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