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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 01:36 AM
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What does all this mean?

So it's been a minute since I did all the suspension work ie: 2.5" level,35x12.50's on stock 18's,Rancho RS9000's,Keldermann dual front stabilizer,and Carli caster bushings.Standard stuff I know,but susp. work nonetheless.I finally decided to take it in for an alignment chk. when I had he tires rotated before a road trip this wknd.Normally I do this myself,but I wanted the alignment done so I had them do it.Anyway,I had the wife-OK,so SHE actually took it in-get the spec. sheet for the work performed.I've had these before on other rigs,just didn't really understand them much,just went by how the truck felt/handled.I see some guys here are pretty astute as far as wheel/tire/alignment/etc. issues,and wondered what the thoughts were on my alignment sheet.I've only diven it 3 miles to my work parking lot so far,so I don't have a seat o' the pants feel just yet.Just curious what all this might mean? AND,WTF is all this Heavy Duty,Extra Heavy Duty,Camper,AMBULANCE!? talk?









 
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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 05:54 AM
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Looks like they didn't actually do anything. It was within spec when they put it on the alignment rack. The only thing that changed was the toe by three-hundredths of a degree. A butterfly might've flown past and farted to cause that minimal of a change.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 06:05 AM
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Reads weird....shouldn’t these read Before, After, Specified Range?

Call me crazy but actual is what it is in the end. To me, a few variables still appear untouched or corrected to be more precise as compared to the specified range. But I read things logically and that may not be how the printout and the program outputs it in terms of wording. Reminds me of a blood work up lab analysis......this is your reading and here should be the range you fall in. Except it appears to me, they never corrected the variables outside the specified range.

YMMV on interpreting this.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Smindustries
. A butterfly might've flown past and farted to cause that minimal of a change.
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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Daddy454
...AND,WTF is all this Heavy Duty,Extra Heavy Duty,Camper,AMBULANCE!? talk?
Tell us more about your F-250’s stock configuration and options. Possible factory suspension options include the camper package (option code 471), snowplow package (option code 473), camper + snowplow package (option code 47B), and heavy-duty front suspension package (option code 67H). One feature all,have in common is stiffer front springs.

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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 10:47 AM
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It means your should still add 1* of Caster on both sides.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 11:03 AM
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Did you ask for a check or a alignment? Being familiar with LesSchwab and how they do these I can explain. That sheet is just a printout of the specs, when you select the pages to print in the Hunter alignment program it gives options and this is page two without going through the alignment steps. Pay no attention to the heavy duty and ambulance designation as this is programmed into the system and is more wording then anything for tracking as there is a different charge for solid axle vehicles.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Germanrazor
Reads weird....shouldn’t these read Before, After, Specified Range?

Call me crazy but actual is what it is in the end. To me, a few variables still appear untouched or corrected to be more precise as compared to the specified range. But I read things logically and that may not be how the printout and the program outputs it in terms of wording. Reminds me of a blood work up lab analysis......this is your reading and here should be the range you fall in. Except it appears to me, they never corrected the variables outside the specified range.

YMMV on interpreting this.
Nothing was changed because it was all within the specified range to begin with. Are you seeing something out of range?
 
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Originally Posted by Smindustries
Looks like they didn't actually do anything. It was within spec when they put it on the alignment rack. The only thing that changed was the toe by three-hundredths of a degree. A butterfly might've flown past and farted to cause that minimal of a change.
This is what I was thinking too.The wife said they told her everything looked good,but didn't really say if they did anything.Too early for butterflies around here yet,so that wasn't it.


Originally Posted by SDcrewzer
Tell us more about your F-250’s stock configuration and options. Possible factory suspension options include the camper package (option code 471), snowplow package (option code 473), camper + snowplow package (option code 47B), and heavy-duty front suspension package (option code 67H). One feature all,have in common is stiffer front springs.

HTH,
Jim / crewzer
Well,I thought I had my window sticker on my phone,but I guess I don't.I'll have to look and see what it says about these.Just surprised to see "Ambulance" on there.

Originally Posted by MadMaxx84
It means your should still add 1* of Caster on both sides.
In addition to the Carli bushings?

Originally Posted by ford390gashog
Did you ask for a check or a alignment? Being familiar with LesSchwab and how they do these I can explain. That sheet is just a printout of the specs, when you select the pages to print in the Hunter alignment program it gives options and this is page two without going through the alignment steps. Pay no attention to the heavy duty and ambulance designation as this is programmed into the system and is more wording then anything for tracking as there is a different charge for solid axle vehicles.
The appt. was for an alignment.They did say everything looked good,and I didn't get charged-at least I think-for a full alignment.I'll have to check my as built and see about the rest I guess.Still...good to know,thanks.

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Nothing was changed because it was all within the specified range to begin with. Are you seeing something out of range?
Not really sure what is/was out of range.Seems to handle fine,was just curious of opinions on how this all reads to someone more versed in this than me.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
Nothing was changed because it was all within the specified range to begin with. Are you seeing something out of range?
I just reread this....you were asking Germanrazor.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 12:07 AM
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So...does this all look acceptable for my setup?
 
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Daddy454
So...does this all look acceptable for my setup?
I would say caster is too low and you will need caster bushings.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
I would say caster is too low and you will need caster bushings.
He used Carli bushings, so that would be 2 degree caster bushings.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 05:23 AM
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The way I read it is everything is fine according to specs.

If the steering wheel is in the correct position, then I would agree with maybe a bit more caster, but clearly that is not needed either.

Just watch the tires and if you detect anything then take it in.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
Nothing was changed because it was all within the specified range to begin with. Are you seeing something out of range?
If you look at specified range and then your actual readings of what your truck is, appears to be out of the specified range on a few points. I read that printout just like I would a blood panel work up where it tells you your actual readings then what range they should fall in. Like I said, it could be just the way it is written by that program and I am off base. But it appears a few areas are not within range.
 
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