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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 01:21 PM
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Is this the new axle for the upcoming F150 EV?

Good afternoon, everyone. I just stumbled upon this press release and video from a few days ago. Magna Powertrain is a major supplier to Ford and has been producing their transfer cases for quite awhile. Since Ford is openly developing an electric F150, this seems like the natural choice. And that mammoth-sized pumpkin in the spy shots looks a lot like the Magna E-Beam.





And here's the release video:
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 01:28 PM
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Interesting because the webbing looks the the ZF unit not the magna.
 
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Looks like it incorporates the rear drive electric motor. I was expecting an IRS for the E application.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 08:09 PM
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I see Ford has copied GM again and lowering the rear of the roof on the trucks like Ford has done on the SUVs. Looks just wrong to see a big vehicle sweep down with the roof line. The Chevy Equinox looks completely stupid it sweeps so much.
 
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Looks like a Ram trailer hitch...
 
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I see Ford has copied GM again and lowering the rear of the roof on the trucks like Ford has done on the SUVs. Looks just wrong to see a big vehicle sweep down with the roof line. The Chevy Equinox looks completely stupid it sweeps so much.
That’s an optical illusion. If you look at the rest of the spy shots you can see it uses the same cab that F150/ have had from 2015 to present.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JKBrad
Looks like it incorporates the rear drive electric motor. I was expecting an IRS for the E application.
I wasn't sure what to expect, but throwing a big electric motor in a solid axle will result in a massive increase in unsprung weight. IRS would be logical, but I think their biggest challenge is keeping the cost down, particularly because the core pickup market is extremely skeptical of EVs. I think the ride in handling penalty could be minimized by the more balanced COG that most EVs have. I expect we'll see a centrally mounted battery under the cab rather than a heavy engine up front, so the heavier rear axle weight would prevent it from jumping around too much.

On that note, does anyone know how much either of the current axles weigh?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2021 | 04:45 PM
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Thats the transmission in the Hybrid F150. It contains an Electric motor to boost torque. The lil battery doesn't have the power to run the truck long by itself but it does give opportunities to plug in drop cords, power the house and even deliver 240 v0lts to power equipment. The Hybrid is more of a Contractor truck than any.
The Magma Electrical dream is just a Prototype to show what ? The front half of the box with batteries and put another power unit on the front and U got an electric vehicle with limited range. Powering a vehicle with Electricity is easy, Forktrucks have hade that option for 70 years at least. The problem is Battery. U ain't gonna pull a Boat all day with a pickup with a battery drive without a gas powered generator in it. Even Recharging stations of the quantity needed are a pipe dream coming from liars ! Biggest problem in the future is generation of electrical power. Dark spots are a clear symptom of not enough! Even using a power system that gives Alternating Direct Current power creates a strong field around the Vehicle that may effect other . Thing with these vehicles is it takes about 80 HP to go down the highway at 55 mph. That means those tiny lil Hybrid vehicles can get you about 20 miles. Its like sledding down hill. Sooner than later u got to have a lot of power to get back up that dang hill ! No way for 15,000,000 batteries of that power to exist. Thas a Fool notion. Been thru a career of gas power generator to electricity power controls. Not a bad option, Gas motor, generator driving motors at the wheels. Not a bad choice, problem is the power distribution to those wheels Voltages. Of course it will happen. Not a bad choice but todays stuff is childs play of not enough stuff !
Nothing in the above is gonna change the future. The total involved simply changes the bean counter column. Not the end results. That is gonna crap it all out no matter what.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2021 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Papa Tiger
Thats
Thats the transmission in the Hybrid F150. It contains an Electric motor to boost torque. The lil battery doesn't have the power to run the truck long by itself but it does give opportunities to plug in drop cords, power the house and even deliver 240 v0lts to power equipment. The Hybrid is more of a Contractor truck than any.
The Magma Electrical dream is just a Prototype to show what ? The front half of the box with batteries and put another power unit on the front and U got an electric vehicle with limited range. Powering a vehicle with Electricity is easy, Forktrucks have hade that option for 70 years at least. The problem is Battery. U ain't gonna pull a Boat all day with a pickup with a battery drive without a gas powered generator in it. Even Recharging stations of the quantity needed are a pipe dream coming from liars ! Biggest problem in the future is generation of electrical power. Dark spots are a clear symptom of not enough! Even using a power system that gives Alternating Direct Current power creates a strong field around the Vehicle that may effect other . Thing with these vehicles is it takes about 80 HP to go down the highway at 55 mph. That means those tiny lil Hybrid vehicles can get you about 20 miles. Its like sledding down hill. Sooner than later u got to have a lot of power to get back up that dang hill ! No way for 15,000,000 batteries of that power to exist. Thas a Fool notion.
Nothing in the above is gonna change the future. The total involved simply changes the bean counter column. Not the end results. That is gonna crap it all out no matter what.
We’re talking completely different animals; the hybrid is a completely different truck than the EV they’ve been working on for the last couple years. People said for years that my car couldn’t exist at the price paid for it, but they were proven wrong by some very clever engineers who knew what they were doing.

Rather than playing the armchair engineer, I assume the folks working on the EV F150 know a lot more than I do, and look forward to seeing what they come up with.

ON edit: J[size=13px]ust for perspective, the batteries between hybrid and EV are different by an order of magnitude. The PowerBoost F150 has a 1.5 kWh battery. My little sedan has a 50 kWh battery, and the Rivian R1T pickup will go on sale with as much as a 180 kWh battery.[/size]
 
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The Hybrid is a decent design the Electric F150 With the Max Voltage will work for me. The rest I will leave to Ford proving in in their race car Winners. Ha Ha. Electric Propulsion ↓ But if one wants a gear box to live with 500 ft. lbs of torque it most likely will be circulating the light viscus weight trany fluid thru a heat exchanger to live.& thas not in the Pic. Am leaving this thread to the Engineer dust bin !
 
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