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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 11:09 AM
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Pro Trailer Backup Assist

I just purchased a new 2020 F250 diesel and 5th wheel rv trailer. I am trying to figure out if I can use the trailer backup assist. I have the 360 camera system but it is not the Ultimate System. Can I add the 7/12 connector and wiring harness and then add either the trailer camera or the 5th wheel sensor to my system?
 
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 11:15 AM
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Yes you can. You will need the short harness that has the tpms and yaw sensor and you will need the long camera and tpms harness. One will plug into the bed 12 pin and the other to the bumper 12 pin. If using TPMS only install it on the yaw sensor harness.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 04:01 PM
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After pulling trailers & 5th wheels for over 35 years, I did manage to get this installed on our new 5th wheel. I wouldn't have bothered with it, but, it came with the truck and I thought, what the heck, i'll try it. I must say I'll likely never use it. It really takes some getting use to. But then again, if I become a paraplegic, I can have my wife back our 5th into a campsite right? LOL
 
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 08:08 PM
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I have been told by 2 different dealerships that unless I have the Ultimate Trailer Tow Camera System with Pro Trailer Backup Assist that simply adding the 7/12 connector and cable connector probably would not work because the software will not allow it. Does anyone have direct experience adding the necessary hardware to the 360 deg camera system and having it work properly.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 08:18 PM
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The dealership is incorrect. Go press your Camera view button, cycle to where the blue screen is. That's for future trailer Camera. Did this truck come with a factory installed gooseneck? If so you also have the 12 pin in the bed and show have the yaw sensor with harness.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 09:06 PM
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It did not come with the 5th wheel prep kit so I had it installed. The connector is 7 pin.
 
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I think I can purchase the yaw sensor with harness along with a 7/12 connector. I will not to get the correct wiring harness. I assume the factory installed wiring will work with the 7/12 wiring harness.
 
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Should say "I will get the correct wiring harness"
 
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Old Jan 27, 2021 | 03:06 AM
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You will need the new in bed 7/12 pin and the short harness. The plugs exist on the frame for this.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2021 | 08:27 AM
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My guess is you can easily add the trailer camera. Pro Trailer Backup Assist might be another can of worms. Do you have the **** on the dash already? The yaw sensor probably won't display trajectory information on the camera image without the **** and other associated electronics. I'm sure they could be added after the fact, but at what cost?

 

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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 07:39 PM
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Why not save the money and learn to back the trailer? I'll bet what you will pay will get you into a CDL class at the community collage and they will teach you to back 53ft trailers.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 01:19 PM
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Why cdl class at community college? Buy some cheap orange cones and go to a large parking lot. Practice, practice, practice and when you think you have it practice a little more.

When backing up with your trailer put your hand at the bottom of the steering wheel and turn in the direction you want the trailer to go and once you start the turn, turning the wheel less is more unless you like to chase the trailer.

Practice, practice, practice.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 07:20 PM
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Why cdl class at community college? Buy some cheap orange cones and go to a large parking lot. Practice, practice, practice and when you think you have it practice a little more.

When backing up with your trailer put your hand at the bottom of the steering wheel and turn in the direction you want the trailer to go and once you start the turn, turning the wheel less is more unless you like to chase the trailer.

Practice, practice, practice.
Why CDL? Because you will spend 8 hours a day practice, practice, practicing. I actually hired onto a company & drove their truck for a year, then got really stupid and bought one. About 100,00 in their truck and 750,000 in mine. (10-12K a month) Made some money and gained confidence I can put the 36ft 5W any where I want it. Your right practice does make a differance just not many will spend 8hrs a couple days to learn and I will guarantee the class will be far more structured. I know after pushing 75ft of truck that many miles not much will worry you about where you can park. I've been to CG's that tell me all they a have left are back in's and some when told will leave. Did you know many back in sites are less money because they use less space? The class may not be for everyone but I'm sure it will be cheaper than adding all the backup BS to a truck. Simply GOAL then back in.

 
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 07:31 PM
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So many drivers omit GOAL and then end up on YouTube when they hit something epic. I was taught you back in anywhere and everywhere that is practical because if you were able to back it in you will get it out. I see far too many that drive straight in and have no ability to get it back out.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 08:18 PM
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So many drivers omit GOAL and then end up on YouTube when they hit something epic. I was taught you back in anywhere and everywhere that is practical because if you were able to back it in you will get it out. I see far too many that drive straight in and have no ability to get it back out.
The truck & 25 years LE, the unit was always backed in. I still back in vehicles so I can see pulling out. When you turn in a dead end with 75ft it's an Oh *****. The CDL class will teach what to do, learn straight line backing, 3 rights make a left, 3 lefts make a right. They will teach you bringing 80,000lbs off miles of 6% grades safely. (Cabbage Pass Donner Pass, Wolf Creek, White Mt US 395, Snoqualmie Pass, 4 of July, LoLo) yes lots of west coast with big mountains, I drove 11 wester for several years. Read road signs they are there to provide info like bridge clearance. Get a Truckers atlas, truck routes are marked, if they can go so can you. Map readings a lost art, too many rely on GPS that won't show the roads closed winters.
 
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