Notices
All Things Towing Conventional, 5th Wheel, Toy Hauler, Flatbed, Gooseneck, Electrical/Brakes/etc.

Pro Trailer Backup Assist

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 7, 2021 | 10:11 AM
  #31  
Trawlerphil's Avatar
Trawlerphil
Cross-Country
10 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 73
Likes: 24
I think y'all are missing the point. This may make it easier for your bride to back the rig in if you are unable to and that makes it useful.
 
Reply
Old May 7, 2021 | 10:12 AM
  #32  
TB250's Avatar
TB250
More Turbo
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Liked
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 618
Likes: 257
From: Stow, MA
Originally Posted by Desert Don
All this sounds like something needed by young a-holes to be able to back up a trailer so they can then bitch about the old guys on the road.
Or, it's so the old a-holes on the road can bitch about how the young ones have it so much easier.
 
Reply
Old May 7, 2021 | 10:12 AM
  #33  
cwtex04's Avatar
cwtex04
More Turbo
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 659
Likes: 312
From: Fort Worth
I would like to try it once to see how or if it works. I have a 40’ 5thwheel I pull with a gooseneck hitch . I think I remember reading that there is a maximum length that it will work with . I believe it was 35’ but it’s been awhile since I checked.
 
Reply
Old May 7, 2021 | 05:42 PM
  #34  
Big Mak's Avatar
Big Mak
Tuned
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 351
Likes: 181
From: Dayton, Montana
Originally Posted by 4by4ord
I wish Ford had made the Pro Back up Assist optional on all trim levels. It seems a shame to have to pay for something that you have zero use or desire for.
This.

And mine won't work. I tried 7 times before giving up. Followed the directions to a T with my boat trailer. In the end, it says "Trailer not found" even though it "red" circles the sticker.

POS technology I have no use for.
 
Reply
Old May 7, 2021 | 09:55 PM
  #35  
Desert Don's Avatar
Desert Don
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,157
Likes: 7,995
From: Texas
When you can back doubles, you kind of just laugh at cameras and gimmicks.
 
Reply
Old May 7, 2021 | 10:25 PM
  #36  
scraprat's Avatar
scraprat
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Top Answer: 5
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 8,653
Likes: 4,740
From: Itinerant
Pretty impressive, I wonder how many mental meltdowns before you master backing them. 🤔
 
Reply
Old May 7, 2021 | 10:43 PM
  #37  
Desert Don's Avatar
Desert Don
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,157
Likes: 7,995
From: Texas
Originally Posted by scraprat
Pretty impressive, I wonder how many mental meltdowns before you master backing them. 🤔
I learned a few new cuss words! LOL
 
Reply
Old May 11, 2021 | 12:22 PM
  #38  
MKrenn's Avatar
MKrenn
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 1,617
Likes: 568
From: Black Hills of SD
Originally Posted by Desert Don
I learned a few new cuss words! LOL
I use to work for a timber contractor on a chip crew. We had very old and unique pull trucks. One was an old skidder that we made into a pull truck. It had a skidder front end with tractor tires and a semi rear end with standard 22" wheels. They had to hand make a transfer case to accomadate the difference in wheel heights. Also, this thing articulated in the middle. My job was to backup semi trailers on a portable scale while the wood chipper loaded the trailer. It took me over a month to learn how to backup trailers with this thing we called a "Skittle".
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old May 13, 2021 | 07:20 AM
  #39  
rvpuller's Avatar
rvpuller
Moderator
Veteran: Coast Guard
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,518
Likes: 917
From: Home Base Nebraska
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by pattom12
I just purchased a new 2020 F250 diesel and 5th wheel rv trailer. I am trying to figure out if I can use the trailer backup assist. I have the 360 camera system but it is not the Ultimate System. Can I add the 7/12 connector and wiring harness and then add either the trailer camera or the 5th wheel sensor to my system?
Instead of spending money and time it would be better to just learn how to backup your trailer, it really isn't that hard. Someday the fancy stuff may fail and you will have to learn how to do it anyway.

Denny
 
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2022 | 06:01 PM
  #40  
Willequipt's Avatar
Willequipt
1st Gear
Joined: Aug 2022
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by ford390gashog
You will need the new in bed 7/12 pin and the short harness. The plugs exist on the frame for this.
Do you have a part number for the short 12 pin harness?
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2022 | 09:31 AM
  #41  
kshoop1958's Avatar
kshoop1958
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 979
Likes: 585
From: Middle TN
Originally Posted by rvpuller
Instead of spending money and time it would be better to just learn how to backup your trailer, it really isn't that hard. Someday the fancy stuff may fail and you will have to learn how to do it anyway.

Denny
Denny, since this thread just got revived I thought I'd chime in on your comment. When we bought our truck and fifth wheel last year my only towing experience was with motorcycle trailers, so I figured I was going to need all the help I could get. The PTBA advertising looked really slick, so I went for it with my truck order. Now that I've got a few miles under my belt I can say that I totally agree with you. When I first went out to practice backing up, I found myself constantly getting into trouble with the ****. For me at least, the steering wheel and mirrors are actually easier and more intuitive. I'm still no pro, still have a lot to learn, so any of you thinking about this should take my comments with a grain of salt. I really do love my 360 overhead view though, and I think that was bundled with PTBA, so no regrets on the money spent.
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2022 | 09:54 AM
  #42  
scraprat's Avatar
scraprat
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Top Answer: 5
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 8,653
Likes: 4,740
From: Itinerant
Backing isn't hard with long trailers. Hold the bottom of the steering and turn the way you want the trailer to go.

Out of habit most people hold the steering wheel like they drive and can't get their brain to think opposite then end up chasing the trailer. If you have a passenger use them for eyeballs in the back of trailer, remind them that if they cant see you in the mirror you can't see them. Most important both need to be on the same page for what hand signals mean or you're just great entertainment for the lookie lues.

 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2022 | 10:59 AM
  #43  
helifixer's Avatar
helifixer
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 10,250
Likes: 7,678
From: Chino Valley, Arizona
Originally Posted by scraprat
Backing isn't hard with long trailers. Hold the bottom of the steering and turn the way you want the trailer to go.

Out of habit most people hold the steering wheel like they drive and can't get their brain to think opposite then end up chasing the trailer. If you have a passenger use them for eyeballs in the back of trailer, remind them that if they cant see you in the mirror you can't see them. Most important both need to be on the same page for what hand signals mean or you're just great entertainment for the lookie lues.
another one is hand on top of the steering wheel and steer towards the problem. (same thing only different)
when I am backing our 5th wheel in to a blind spot my wife gets out puts on her blue tooth Bose ear buds and call me. my hearing aids are blue tooth and I don't have to see her or move my mirrors to watch tree limbs.
she stays far enough back to see the whole picture and can perfectly guide me around stuff.
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2022 | 11:38 AM
  #44  
MKrenn's Avatar
MKrenn
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 1,617
Likes: 568
From: Black Hills of SD
The biggest reason I opted for the PTBA was to monitor trailer TPMS. You need the PTBA to do this with the factory trailer TPMS. It has already paid for itself. When we were on our way back from Glacier, I had a tire go flat pretty quick and I received a warning of low tire pressure. Then within 15-20 seconds, I was down to 15 psi and was able to get to the shoulder of the road before it came apart and killed the side of our 5er. I can tell ya'll this, I was glad I had that monitoring system. Next step was to get the traffic to slow down while we changed the tire. Had to call the sheriff to assist in getting traffic to move over. Not fun changing tired on the drivers side with traffic wizzin by you at 80+ mph. Some people are idiots....
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2023 | 06:02 PM
  #45  
Dan C52's Avatar
Dan C52
3rd Gear
Joined: Nov 2023
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Question Backup Assist with Sliding 5th wheel puck?

Has anyone used the PTBA (Pro Trailer Backup Assist) with a 5th wheel sliding hitch (a.k.a. puck) in a short-bed (i.e. 6.5' i.e. 160" wheelbase)? The concern/wondering is how well the software works when the pivot point changes while turning.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:06 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE