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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 08:17 AM
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Gauges and getting them to work

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​​​​​​My gen light flickers but I'll save that for another thread. Doesn't seem my other gauges are working. Read that the thing on the back of the gauge panel goes out. Fixes for that?

Looking at connecting some aftermarket gauges. Searched for oil filter fittings for the oil gauge, but nothing conclusive. My oil filter spins flat to the block, from what I read there's an adapter that goes between and allows for fittings. Where is the stock oil pressure fitting and can I use that for a mechanical gauge? My gauge setup has an idiot light and oil pressure gauge, same fitting stock or are there two?



​I'm including a pic of the underside of my block. I'm guessing the temp sending sensor is the one wire one. What about the two wire one in the recessed cap?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 10:17 AM
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The two wire one you mention appears to be for a block heater, connected into a freeze plug.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by stephen.osborne1
The two wire one you mention appears to be for a block heater, connected into a freeze plug.
Interesting only heard of them for diesels. I'm assuming to help with cold starts and getting oil to the heads?

Also I believe the other one wire one by the oil filter is the oil sending unit. Seems a 1" and 1 1/8" socket doesn't. My adjustable slips on it. If there's a special tool lmk other wise I'm going to pick up a 1-1/16.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 11:07 AM
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There is a specially designed socket for sending units, so they do not get rounded off when applying pressure. I got mine off the Snap-On truck, I am sure any good auto parts store will have them.

I’m surprised that you, living in Michigan, are not familiar with that type block heater. They keep the coolant warm, which in turn keeps the entire engine warm, for easier starts in the cold. My buddy from Sugar Island/Salt Sault Ste. Marie told me of having to light a pile of charcoal underneath the oil pan, and removing the battery overnight when it got really cold.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 11:27 AM
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That sender is the type for an oil light. An oil gauge sender is different, quite a bit larger in size. Could install a "T" fitting and use both type senders for the light and gauge to work, if you wanted.

Can unscrew the sender to install a mechanical oil pressure gauge right there. Pressure spec in the book is "35 to 55 psi, Hot @ 2000 RPM" with 10W-30. Best to take it on the road first to get it warmed up a bit for an accurate test, keeping in mind coolant temp is not an indication of oil temp. See what it reads cold, get it warmed up, etc.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 12:00 PM
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Thanks for the help. St. Marie is a bit north of me. But yes without a block heater on my vw diesel a small fire has done well to get me up and going. Never heard of it being a problem with gas engines unless you're in very cold temps. Personally never had an issue with it in any of my gas vehicles.

I will eventually T in for the idiot light. Got the new gauge connected. At 55psi idle cold. Weather is super wet right now so maybe tomorrow I'll see if it moves down the road.

Where is the coolant sensor located? Looked on the right side of the block but don't see anything. Is it tucked between the starter and manifold? Only place I couldn't see well.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 12:35 PM
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That's an idiot light sender, in the pic. It won't work for an oil gauge?

Temp sensor is in the driver side head, near the firewall.

You would find the Ford Shop Manual for your truck extremely helpful, btw. Can't recommend it too highly. Especially, though definitely not limited to, if you plan on utilizing a generator charging system. Most people don't.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 12:56 PM
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Not sure if that was a question or statement, but wanted to install a gauge that would tell me what my oil pressure is for obvious reasons down the road but also to make sure my pump was working correctly.

Thank you for the info on the temp sender location.

I don't plan on keeping the generator setup, how would I go about determining if it's been swapped already or not?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 05:40 PM
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Easy! Generator weighs about 30 pounds, and you'll pull a muscle trying to remove it. It also has a mechanical type voltage regulator mounted on the fender apron. Plus, you said the GEN light is flickering - that's how you know, ha ha.

Seriously they (mostly) work fine when maintained, if not - not. Definitely not.
 
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