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Old Jan 13, 2021 | 10:11 AM
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This is good stuff. I have a dual relay set up already (extra from race car fuel pump application) and understand how relays work so for me, thats covered. I actually have the parts on the bench right now.

I was looking for the vehicle side schematic. What color wires in the harness are for what.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2021 | 01:28 PM
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This is good stuff. I have a dual relay set up already (extra from race car fuel pump application) and understand how relays work so for me, thats covered. I actually have the parts on the bench right now.

I was looking for the vehicle side schematic. What color wires in the harness are for what.
almost faster to just test the headlight connectors with a meter to figure out +\-, factory wiring is tiny, like 22ga, I recommend at least 16ga but preferably 14ga. The amp draw isnt enough to justify 12ga unless it is all you have laying around.

I wouldn’t want to use 80/100w bulbs w/o a glass housing. Even just running 65 instead of 55 in my Subaru for years has burned my metal glare caps, thankfully not the housing or reflector. 80w is a lot of heat in a plastic housing
 
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Old Jan 13, 2021 | 01:31 PM
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almost faster to just test the headlight connectors with a meter to figure out +\-, factory wiring is tiny, like 22ga, I recommend at least 16ga but preferably 14ga. The amp draw isnt enough to justify 12ga unless it is all you have laying around.
So from what Im gathering, you and others are saying I should increase the wire gauge from the relay to the connector as well?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2021 | 03:09 PM
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Low beams.....
If I had seen this pic 2y ago, I never would have wasted money on chasing brighter headlights through other means. that's intense

 
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Old Jan 14, 2021 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy1100

I wouldn’t want to use 80/100w bulbs w/o a glass housing. Even just running 65 instead of 55 in my Subaru for years has burned my metal glare caps, thankfully not the housing or reflector. 80w is a lot of heat in a plastic housing
This was a concern of mine as well, but 2 years so far no issues with heat. Many others in the super duty and 7.3 subforums have run the same set up for years without issues. My Eagle eye 02+ composite housings still look brand new and no signs of the harness melting. I definitely would not run these without an upgraded relay harness.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2021 | 09:22 AM
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jayro88, what headlights are those? I'm looking to do the same upgrade - new lenses and LED bulbs. But I can only find new lenses with the side markers, not the headlight lenses only, like you were able to replace.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2021 | 09:31 AM
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jayro88, what headlights are those? I'm looking to do the same upgrade - new lenses and LED bulbs. But I can only find new lenses with the side markers, not the headlight lenses only, like you were able to replace.
I got them off RockAuto. They are TYC20644000SETSet; Includes Bulbs and Sockets.

They sell them individually also.

Mine is a 2001, so I think the headlight setup may be a little different.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2021 | 12:07 PM
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So from what Im gathering, you and others are saying I should increase the wire gauge from the relay to the connector as well?
yes, that is a large part of the reason the factory setup is inadequate, too long of a run + too small of wire gauge.

i usually just get new ends for the bulbs, I like the dorman ones they seems to hold up quite well compared to some others I have used in the past.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2021 | 12:10 PM
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If I had seen this pic 2y ago, I never would have wasted money on chasing brighter headlights through other means. that's intense
i tried 02-04 TYC housings but the pattern was horrendous, then I was trying to figure out how to add driving lights to my '00 but never did, finally I just bit the bullet and just went with new OEM 05+ housings. very happy I did, and at the same time I added the relays. the results are fantastic

a true fog light would help compliment the close in edges for inclimate weather, but it doesn't get driven enough in those conditions to justify it. I have to say in low fog (<1/4mi ) or snow it is pretty dang good because the lights are just yellow enough to cut through and actually illuminate what I need to see when driving. I actually like the lights on this beast the best out of my entire fleet, but my truck is a close 2nd (2000 Ex, 2012 Subaru Impreza, 2017 Chevy 3500HD, 2019 VW Atlas)
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 12:27 PM
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@Flyboy1100 so if I understand this correctly, you installed 2005 headlights, and LED bulbs?

Maybe I'm missing it in the back-and-forth above, but would you post sources and part numbers for all these?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 12:31 PM
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@Flyboy1100 so if I understand this correctly, you installed 2005 headlights, and LED bulbs?

Maybe I'm missing it in the back-and-forth above, but would you post sources and part numbers for all these?
I believe he used OEM 05+ housing with stock bulbs and did the relay mod to insure they get full/good voltage.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 04:09 PM
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I believe he used OEM 05+ housing with stock bulbs and did the relay mod to insure they get full/good voltage.
yes, new housings, relays for full voltage, regular halogen bulbs
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 04:41 PM
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Thanks. From where did you source the '05 headlights, and were they a bolt-in?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2021 | 04:46 PM
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Thanks. From where did you source the '05 headlights, and were they a bolt-in?
i bought them from https://parts.autonationfordwhitebearlake.com/


google how to install 05 lights on earlier years, lots of good guides on it. Not too tough, 2-3hr job
 
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Old Jan 16, 2021 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy1100
google how to install 05 lights on earlier years, lots of good guides on it. Not too tough, 2-3hr job
Eeek, not prepared to tackle that right now. Maybe in the Spring.
 
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