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Old Jan 1, 2021 | 01:25 PM
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You guys are talking around and about three different boots. All of which have been linked above by me or another informed party.

1. Black accordion style boot with plastic rim that often breaks.
2. White (sometimes black) boot that is a sound and heat barrier that is molded to the outer accordion style boot from the factory. This boot often tears be because people get impatient with it.
3. Black small and taller and somewhat narrow accordion style boot that goes on the shift lever just under where the upper and lower shift lever are bolted together.

Three different boots, one of which is sometimes black.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2021 | 03:00 PM
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Dual disk does come with pilot bearimg, and it is a good one, use it.
Most interesting, does it have its own inner race?
 
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Old Jan 1, 2021 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Greasemonkee
Most interesting, does it have its own inner race?
I do not remember the details from 2 years ago. But when I was looking at doing the bronze bushing, due to the fact the previous sb kevlar bushing held up like junk, I was happy to learn frkm sb that they use a much better setup on their dd clutch. Almost like they want their $1,200 clutch to last.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2021 | 06:02 AM
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Rip the white boot...youll get noise

rip the little black boot...youll get fluid.
(This boot can be outsourced for 1/4 the cost you'd pay at the dealer)
 
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Old Jan 2, 2021 | 09:19 AM
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Tim is right, again...

The company I listed above in post #6 has reputable prices and reliable parts for the ZF6 based on my first hand and past experiences.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2021 | 10:53 AM
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Is that dual disk setup they sell the hot setup if you can swing it? How’s the pedal effort compared to stock?
 
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Old Jan 2, 2021 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandonpdx
Is that dual disk setup they sell the hot setup if you can swing it? How’s the pedal effort compared to stock?
Pedal effort is fairly light, but bit harder then stock.
It is a good setup for heavy work with extra power. Though a good single disk is still a good product any less expensive.
180/30 and up and heavy towing often, I personally would go with dual disk.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2021 | 07:45 PM
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Parts finally came in. Some comparison pictures.









 
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Old Jan 7, 2021 | 11:11 PM
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I have MTL in mine also and have been very happy with it. Might buy a gallon of MT-90 and mix it with the two left over quarts of MTL I have next time. I'm a Schaeffer fan but they don't seem to have a product that fits the bill perfectly for manual transmissions and Redline is tried and true in that department.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2021 | 07:01 AM
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Wow, a real pilot bearing! I'm impressed. If I knew at the time I'd gladly spend an extra $400 and got their dual unit, perhaps is wouldn't rattle my teeth every time I start off. Thanks for the pics.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2021 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Brandonpdx
I have MTL in mine also and have been very happy with it. Might buy a gallon of MT-90 and mix it with the two left over quarts of MTL I have next time. I'm a Schaeffer fan but they don't seem to have a product that fits the bill perfectly for manual transmissions and Redline is tried and true in that department.
I went from two fills of Amsoil to Red Line MTL, but it was too "notchy" for my liking. After talking to Red Line and a friend of mine who works at ZF Transmissions in Gray Court SC I decided on Red Line High Temp ATF 30204. There are a couple of different blends of the Red Line Hight Temp ATF, that is why I usually provide the 30204 when I mention it.

Anyway, it is a bit of an in-between when looking at the MTL and regular ATF and my transmission is very happy with it. The same build component trucks are not the same after 20 years of being on the road. I am glad you found MTL to work for you, I wish I had known you ran MTL a year or so ago. I gave a full case of it away to someone on the OBS forum with a ZF5. He paid for shipping, but that is a fraction of what the MTL cost me.

Red Line make some nice products, they are pricey, but worth the cost based on my butt-dyno results.

00t444e, looking good and like you are progressing well. Thanks for posting the pictures for those interested to dissect.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2021 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Greasemonkee
Wow, a real pilot bearing! I'm impressed. If I knew at the time I'd gladly spend an extra $400 and got their dual unit, perhaps is wouldn't rattle my teeth every time I start off. Thanks for the pics.
I put the SB HD clutch in mine with an upgraded Fitzall bearing and input shaft shaft repair kit, it still rattles, not as bad but still rattles so I wouldn't put the blame on the bearing.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2021 | 10:45 AM
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Wow, a real pilot bearing! I'm impressed. If I knew at the time I'd gladly spend an extra $400 and got their dual unit, perhaps is wouldn't rattle my teeth every time I start off. Thanks for the pics.
that roller skate bearing in the middle of the flywheel is not something you normally get?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2021 | 12:25 PM
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Oooh a dual disc clutch. Fancy.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2021 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandonpdx
that roller skate bearing in the middle of the flywheel is not something you normally get?
Some Southbend flywheels ship with a Kevlar bushing that some have had issues with. It can be replaced with better options.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post19517691
 
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