My video was with the NorthStarAGM-65 batteries. I wanted to make sure that people knew that, so I "think" I included that detail in the video somewhere. It was also the same time that I installed the QuickStart alternator, which I NO LONGER RECOMMEND to anyone. Although, the alternator had no effect on the starter as the truck was off for 2 weeks, then started with the Denso.

It really is an nice starter, but it does cost quite a bit.

 

I ordered the Denso. My transmission rebuild has already reached $3500 after throwing in transfer case rebuild, driveshaft u-joints, fluids, specialty tools, etc, but it's so easy to throw in a brand new starter when I already have the old oily one out, especially when I have access to this lift that I am borrowing...

Thanks guys.

 

I don't know if it's just me or what but that style lift gives me the *******. Will 'e make it or will 'e not.

 

It's a triple digit lift. Must have an IQ in the triple digits to use. It is meant for these trucks, it has cups specifically for the narrow c-channel frame rail that this has. Just make sure you park the truck with the front seats inline with the lift posts. I parked a little back because I am taking out a lot of the weight up front (trans, TC).

 

Stabilizer jacks on front and rear add a great deal of confidence too.

 

@Walleye Hunter , this is for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48t68l5Xhbg&list=PLVQuMm6p-wskix-Bvj2CX9BlHfmjn5SAf

 

The tech misread the rating on the lift. A "10 foot lift" meant to stand 10 feet away, not lift it 10 feet high

That was an inch away from a really dang bad day.

 

I was not aware of such a device being available because I don't have a lift and frankly never will due to budget and available space constraints. Still nice to be educated in things such as this in case the need ever arose...




This happens more than someone would expect... I saw the video below a while back and just felt bad for the guy. I think he went in for a new exhaust system or something and they dropped his car.



Bad day indeed sir. I would love to have a setup similar to you and appreciate you sharing your progress with us via words and images. We love pictures...

 

Aye ca rumba! I wonder what the average pulse and blood pressure were in that shop.

 

Well, it looks like the brushes are done on the Visteon offset gear starter as one was low enough it started arching across the back cap where the wire lead connects to the field. The two end bearings probably need some attention too, but everything should clean up. However, I decided to go a different route given the brush leads are soldered on, and the local rebuilders want $100 to get it up to snuff again...though it did last 10-12 years from the previous rebuild. The wife's Excursion has alot of miles on the starter and I know I've at least taken it out, apart, and given it a cleaning back when I had this starter rebuilt...but I think it's time for this one too.

So after doing some research, I decided to go to the 6.7L starter for both trucks. I just don't have the cash to throw at the Denso units and really don't like the weight involved either. Plus the original equipment starters seem to do a great job for many years. As of a couple hours ago, I have two original FoMoCo 6.7L low mileage starters headed this way...one is an 11,000 mile unit, and the other is a 38,000 mile unit...purdy good deal at $100 for both shipped to me! I will take them apart to do the nose cone swap, and get them cleaned up with some fresh grease. I have another starter somewhere, so I will put together a complete good working unit for a spare that I will keep in the tool box.

 

@bwguardian , there is a 6.7L to 7.3L starter conversion in the Tech Folder. Although, if you have time and desire, a bolstering of the instructions and details on how to accomplish the modification would be greatly appreciated by many for many years to come. As the 7.3L becomes more difficult to source parts for and the 6.7L becomes more prevalent to source parts for so to speak.

6.7 Starter Modification

We look forward to your progress report and any details you can offer about the modification.

 

Those two videos in that link are what convinced me. The 6.4L and 6.7L starters have larger bearings and are wired in parallel as opposed to the 7.3L and 6.0L units, which is why they produce stronger cranks. The 6.7L has a little longer armature field than the 6.4L, and is probably more prevalent. I have been impressed with the offset gear reduction unit in my truck that I upgraded many years ago, and the Excursion still has the original long non offset unit in it...so looking forward to see what these do. I will document it best I can and hopefully it helps someone out, though it actually sounds purdy simple and straight forward if you can turn a wrench. It looks like they won't be here until first part of next week so I need to have a look at the brakes in the mean time on my truck...always something, but it's better than a big monthly payment!

I looked local and on the interwebs for the FoMoCo 6.7L starters, and they averaged $100 for a used unit. I found these for $50 a pop with free shipping coming out of Kentucky...and they have more, plus other parts off these newer trucks if anyone is looking. Great guys to deal with on the phone, and he's even sending me a T-shirt to boot! It's Davis Salvage if anyone is looking, and I can post a contact number or Ebay link if you want to look at their inventory...

 

can you send me a link please?

 

There is no harm in you posting the contact details or ebay links here publicly. Only vendors or companies that are not sponsors are held to that standard of posting.

I too would like the information as a friend of mine locally mentioned his starter might be failing. This may be a viable option for him.

 

As aforementioned, it's Davis Salvage in Corbin, Ky and their phone number is (606) 627-7104...Bruce is who I spoke with and I ordered directly over the phone to save them some fees for Ebay. Here is the link to their Ebay page that has another decent mileage unit: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Starter-Mot...IAAOSwvaZfxo7c Here is another 6.7L starter I found that looks purdy good: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Starter-Mot....c100005.m1851 but they don't list how many miles and I was unable to contact them through Ebay, which is why I decided to just get the two through Davis. I think the next starter he has was at about 53,000 miles and another at 58,000 miles on the clock which is still not that bad. Some of these company trucks are just let idle instead of start and stop...