Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

Strange o ring problem

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 17, 2020 | 02:08 PM
  #1  
7.34x4's Avatar
7.34x4
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Strange o ring problem

Those little oil galley plugs on the head that use the same o ring that's on the ICP sensor. I had one leaking, I had a new pack of o rings from dieselorings.
Told myself this fix can't get any easier, remove plug, put new o ring on, good to go.
Wrong again. This truck is a freak and nothing ever goes like it should.
I put the new o ring on, oiled it and turned it into the head. Just hand tightening the plug the new o ring squeezes and pinches out from under the head of the plug.
Figured I didn't have the o ring seated right on the plug or something so I put another new on. Oiled it up and put a little grease on it, same thing.
So I pulled an old o ring off a spare ICP senor. Same thing.
So I dug around and found a bag of new o rings ina spare tool drawer. I found one that's a little smaller diameter and a little thinner, I put that one on.
And even that one wants to do the same thing. Not near as bad though. I tightened (I'm not over tightening the plug) it down and there is just one little tiny spot you can see the o ring squeezing out from under the head of the plug. It doesn't leak, but am afraid it may if the future.
The o ring on the left is the correct o ring. The one on the right is the smaller one I found and used.
How can replacing a simple o ring cause problems?! You guys will probably start thinking I'm not capable of putting fuel in the truck.


 
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2020 | 07:26 PM
  #2  
jstihl's Avatar
jstihl
Cargo Master
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 2,860
Likes: 365
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by 7.34x4
Those little oil galley plugs on the head that use the same o ring that's on the ICP sensor. I had one leaking, I had a new pack of o rings from dieselorings.
Told myself this fix can't get any easier, remove plug, put new o ring on, good to go.
Wrong again. This truck is a freak and nothing ever goes like it should.
I put the new o ring on, oiled it and turned it into the head. Just hand tightening the plug the new o ring squeezes and pinches out from under the head of the plug.
Figured I didn't have the o ring seated right on the plug or something so I put another new on. Oiled it up and put a little grease on it, same thing.
So I pulled an old o ring off a spare ICP senor. Same thing.
So I dug around and found a bag of new o rings ina spare tool drawer. I found one that's a little smaller diameter and a little thinner, I put that one on.
And even that one wants to do the same thing. Not near as bad though. I tightened (I'm not over tightening the plug) it down and there is just one little tiny spot you can see the o ring squeezing out from under the head of the plug. It doesn't leak, but am afraid it may if the future.
The o ring on the left is the correct o ring. The one on the right is the smaller one I found and used.
How can replacing a simple o ring cause problems?! You guys will probably start thinking I'm not capable of putting fuel in the truck.

I just put these same o-rings in from diesel o-rings and didn't have any problems. Are you absolutely positive you have the right o-ring set? Did you clean the threads where the o-ring seats, maybe there was some buildup there that caused the o-ring to push out prematurely?
 
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2020 | 08:06 PM
  #3  
Brother Les's Avatar
Brother Les
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,712
Likes: 107
From: BoCoMo
If you bought the orings from https://www.dieselorings.com/ , I would give them a call and make sure that what you have is correct and ask for advise. That is their business and what they do and the best place is to go to the source.
 
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2020 | 08:32 PM
  #4  
7.34x4's Avatar
7.34x4
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Yes, threads were clean as well as the recessed area the o ring fits in.
I dug through my container of o rings and did find one that's a fair amount smaller than what came in the dieselorings packet.
I put it on the plug, tightened it, it didn't squeeze out or pinch, started the truck, no leaks, drove truck a few miles, no leaks. So hopefully all is well.
I always have such strange problems.
 
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2020 | 10:24 PM
  #5  
Colorado350's Avatar
Colorado350
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,807
Likes: 125
From: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted by Brother Les
If you bought the orings from https://www.dieselorings.com/ , I would give them a call and make sure that what you have is correct and ask for advise. That is their business and what they do and the best place is to go to the source.

I would definitely call DO... maybe it’s possible somebody grabbed the wrong set of O-rings and threw them in your package...
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2020 | 09:03 AM
  #6  
DieselOrings's Avatar
DieselOrings
SPONSOR
15 Year Member
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 453
Likes: 18
From: Weldona, CO
Club FTE Silver Member

I believe the OP said that he pulled one off of a spare ICP and it did the same thing.
I checked our inventory and all of the oil rail plug o-rings are correct so this is a strange issue that I have not seen before.
This can happen when the ICP or rail plug is over tightened since an o-ring seal requires very little torque to seal and the OP did say that he did not over tighten it.
I believe the book says 16 lbs-ft which is more that I usually do.
 
__________________

Specializing in Viton® o-rings and leak repair kits for the 7.3L and 6.0L diesels
(970) 368-4455 aka guzzle
guzzle's Mods & Maintenance website
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2020 | 10:50 AM
  #7  
Colorado350's Avatar
Colorado350
Postmaster
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,807
Likes: 125
From: Colorado Springs
Originally Posted by DieselOrings
I believe the OP said that he pulled one off of a spare ICP and it did the same thing.
I checked our inventory and all of the oil rail plug o-rings are correct so this is a strange issue that I have not seen before.
This can happen when the ICP or rail plug is over tightened since an o-ring seal requires very little torque to seal and the OP did say that he did not over tighten it.
I believe the book says 16 lbs-ft which is more that I usually do.



Sounds like you got good orings...since that’s cleared up, I suggest using either a smaller drive ratchet (less torque applied) 1/4” drive and grab it at the head of the ratchet instead of the end of the handle. Often I use my non-dominate hand to tighten everything up. It may sound crazy but it has worked for me...often our perceptions of how much we’re tightening are unrealistic. That torque is basically finger tight...hopefully you find a quick fix.
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2020 | 11:04 AM
  #8  
Sous's Avatar
Sous
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Veteran: Air Force
Community Builder
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 27,352
Likes: 5,946
From: Lake Hartwell, GA
FTE Emeritus
Sometimes when dealing with o-rings, we must abide by visual and feeling instead of torque specifications. I recently had an instance like this when a HPOP hose fitting on the passenger side head came loose and oozed oil. Clay from Riffraff sent me this image after seeing my post about the leak and how I fixed it. He knew that I had bought OEM fittings and hoses from him a couple of years before that and wanted to make sure that I was squared away.

I am always eager to learn something that may save me time or money later down the road. So, I will post the image that he sent me for you and others to see in an effort to help you resolve issues in the future.


 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 18, 2020 | 04:35 PM
  #9  
Squirrel13's Avatar
Squirrel13
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 1,115
Likes: 264
From: KY
Originally Posted by Colorado350
Sounds like you got good orings...since that’s cleared up, I suggest using either a smaller drive ratchet (less torque applied) 1/4” drive and grab it at the head of the ratchet instead of the end of the handle. Often I use my non-dominate hand to tighten everything up. It may sound crazy but it has worked for me...often our perceptions of how much we’re tightening are unrealistic. That torque is basically finger tight...hopefully you find a quick fix.
Im with Colorado350. I almost always grab a 1/4" tool, although with my arthritis it seems neither hand is dominant anymore
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2020 | 07:51 PM
  #10  
7.34x4's Avatar
7.34x4
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by DieselOrings
I believe the OP said that he pulled one off of a spare ICP and it did the same thing.
I checked our inventory and all of the oil rail plug o-rings are correct so this is a strange issue that I have not seen before.
This can happen when the ICP or rail plug is over tightened since an o-ring seal requires very little torque to seal and the OP did say that he did not over tighten it.
I believe the book says 16 lbs-ft which is more that I usually do.

I knew it wouldn't be a problem on your end. You, and your products are top notch.
I didn't come close to the 16lbs-ft. But maybe I was still over tightening.
I will keep a close eye on the plug. If it starts leaking I will replace it with a new o ring from your pack and just snug it with a 1/4 ratchet.
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2020 | 09:02 PM
  #11  
7.34x4's Avatar
7.34x4
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Sous
Sometimes when dealing with o-rings, we must abide by visual and feeling instead of torque specifications. I recently had an instance like this when a HPOP hose fitting on the passenger side head came loose and oozed oil. Clay from Riffraff sent me this image after seeing my post about the leak and how I fixed it. He knew that I had bought OEM fittings and hoses from him a couple of years before that and wanted to make sure that I was squared away.

I am always eager to learn something that may save me time or money later down the road. So, I will post the image that he sent me for you and others to see in an effort to help you resolve issues in the future.


Looking at the assembled picture, the head of the fitting is touching the port or in my case the bottom of the plug head is touching the cylinder head.
Am I correct in saying that is the way the plug has to fit?
There is no way I could ever come close to that without squeezing the o ring out.
I can snug the plug up to where the o ring isn't squeezed out, but the plug head is not close to touching the cylinder head. And if its not tight, I would think it would loosen over time.
 
Reply
Old Dec 18, 2020 | 09:33 PM
  #12  
TheFecalFanatic's Avatar
TheFecalFanatic
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 1,231
Likes: 284
From: NT, See you in the
ICP or oil galleys i tend to just hand tighten snug. Had worked for me so far. Sous' illustration pretty much nails how the o ring seats into the mating surface.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
hayman68
1997 - 2003 F150
5
Dec 21, 2018 07:22 AM
miniblackpearl
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
13
Nov 7, 2014 07:56 AM
dothedew192
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
2
Nov 13, 2011 04:20 AM
mxracer3276
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
9
Aug 8, 2009 05:25 PM
Nahkohe00
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
11
Sep 20, 2006 09:21 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:13 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE