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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 06:15 PM
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Trailer Brake Question

Just had a quick question about the trailer brake controller. I just bought my '20 F250 in August, before this I had a '16 Tundra. We bought a 32' TT in July. Both trucks I have to have the trailer gain at 10 for me to feel the trailer brakes really doing anything. Is that normal to have the gain at max for some trailers? Last year we rented a TT (smaller than what we bought) and when I towed with my Tundra once I got past 5 on the gain I could definitely feel the trailer brakes and if I went past 8 I could lock up the trailer tires. It's a brand new trailer and I've had to use max gain on two different trucks so not sure if it's an actual issue with the trailer or this is just normal for bigger/heavier trailers.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 06:24 PM
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Does your controller have two different adjusting *****?
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 06:46 PM
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It's the built-in Ford trailer brake controller, not aftermarket. So just gain control and the manual control slider.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 06:55 PM
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It could be that your trailer's are not getting the proper ground to the tow vehicle and causing some different actions. You might try running a totally separate ground wire from the trailer to the frame of your tow vehicle. Many times a short "jumper wire" is run out the back of the connector and hooked to the closest thing possible. At times this is not a well grounded location. Trailers with a tilt tongue can often not have a good ground through the tilt mechanism. Just a few thoughts.

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Old Nov 30, 2020 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rizzy
It's the built-in Ford trailer brake controller, not aftermarket. So just gain control and the manual control slider.
Is the trailer set up in the trucks towing screen? The correct brake type is selected? Does the manual slider enable full trailer brake lock up?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2020 | 12:27 AM
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I bought a new car trailer and drove it home a few hundred miles and had to use the max setting to get the trailer brakes to do much. After pulling it loaded it got better and better. I think the drum brakes may have had to "arc" the shoes to get them to fully engage the drums. I remember years ago new brake shoes had to be fitted to the drums. If you have driven your new trailer much this probably doesn't apply. I also have a dump trailer that has been used quite a bit and they now both use about the same settings to get the brakes to lock the wheels.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2020 | 09:45 AM
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So the trailer is a 2020 Mallard M26 travel trailer. On average it weighs in around 8,200lbs. Back in July when I first got it I had a Tundra, then bought the F250 end of August. So I've towed the trailer with two different trucks. In September we took a 3 three cross country trip in the trailer and I had to keep the gain at +9 to really "feel" the trailer brakes.

Manual slider does not lock up the trailer brakes, even at full gain. The trailer brakes are definitely engaging though.

I just wasn't sure if this was normal behavior for any trailer, RV trailers, etc. or if I should get the trailer brakes looked at. It's a brand new trailer so I just "assumed" they would be OK.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2020 | 11:20 AM
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Brand new trailers almost never have the brakes working right. They either need to be bedded in a bit, or adjusted or more probably both.
 
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Great. I'll get them checked out then.
 
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Go to the trailer configuration screen (I think it's there). You can set the level to low, medium and high. If it's on low, try medium and back the gain off from 10 to 5 and retest. If it's already on high/10 then something is goofy with your trailer.
 
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Originally Posted by Rizzy
So the trailer is a 2020 Mallard M26 travel trailer. On average it weighs in around 8,200lbs. Back in July when I first got it I had a Tundra, then bought the F250 end of August. So I've towed the trailer with two different trucks. In September we took a 3 three cross country trip in the trailer and I had to keep the gain at +9 to really "feel" the trailer brakes.

Manual slider does not lock up the trailer brakes, even at full gain. The trailer brakes are definitely engaging though.

I just wasn't sure if this was normal behavior for any trailer, RV trailers, etc. or if I should get the trailer brakes looked at. It's a brand new trailer so I just "assumed" they would be OK.
My camper weighs 9200lbs. My TBC gain is set on 9 low and this works for me. Remember, the Ford controllers are progressive]?] in the fact that the harder you press the pedal, the more gain is achieved. I had a truck that required an aftermarket controller, a Prodigy I think, and as soon as you hit the brake pedal you could feel the trailer tugging at you. These controllers are not set up like that. Always set the gain on the controller by using the manual slider.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2020 | 08:32 PM
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Can't say if mine are adjusted perfectly but I know I don't "FEEL" them if at a higher speed but when I am coming to a complete stop they really grab right at the last second with 13,000 lbs behind me.
 
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My travel trailer is about 7k lbs, I have the brake effort set to medium in the setting screen and the gain at 5 and it's plenty for me. If the manual slider won't lock up the trailer brakes, sounds like they may not be adjusted or functioning properly.
 
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