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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 09:20 AM
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yeah, I've never heard of a leaf sprung front suspension truck going through a death wobble event, maybe it has happened, but if so, it would be due to something different than what we see in the coil spring trucks. This is my opinion based on what I have been through with this. I have had at least 10 leaf spring trucks in my days and put a ton of miles on them, never a hint of dw, but I've dealt with it on several of my coil sprung trucks.

I have a 4" lift on my 78 bronco with 35" tires, but yet to experience it and I haven't seen anything about it on any of the Bronco forums I have been a member of for 10+ years.

I just think these late model ford, dodge and jeep trucks (suv's) suffer from the same faults. When everything remains tight and in spec, nothing happens, but it seems like the second 1 component slips out of place, it rears its ugly head.

They should just put dual stabilizers on these trucks from the factory and call it good. Dial them up to have a lot of resistance. I wonder how many people have been injured or killed due to this issue? I tell you what, the 2008 F350 I had went through extremely violent dw events in the same curve in Flint, MI at Highway speeds (M23 North to I69 West interchange). Whenever I pulled our 43' toy hauler I had to take a different route. I can only imagine what would happen if I went tooling through there with that trailer in tow and a car or semi along side me. I got lucky, it happened to me multiple times in that spot with no trailer attached, so I planned ahead. Some people haven't had that fortunate luxury and it ended very badly for them.
The REAL fix is to get the vehicle to drive/handle properly and no wobbles without ANY stabilizer; THEN put your dual stabilizers on. Anything else and the stabilizer is just a mask to cover the real issue.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 99150
The REAL fix is to get the vehicle to drive/handle properly and no wobbles without ANY stabilizer; THEN put your dual stabilizers on. Anything else and the stabilizer is just a mask to cover the real issue.
What he said! If mine acts up, the first thing I'm NOT going to do is run out and upgrade the stabilizer.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 99150
The REAL fix is to get the vehicle to drive/handle properly and no wobbles without ANY stabilizer; THEN put your dual stabilizers on. Anything else and the stabilizer is just a mask to cover the real issue.
oh I agree. The new dampers they are putting on these trucks on this recall, are nothing more than a band-aid and I've stated that many times. It's what they did on my 17 when I started noticing a slight wobble.

However, putting dual stabilizers/dampers on these trucks, would probably prevent a lot of accidents and soiled underwear.

It would, at the very least, lessen the effects of death wobble events and not make them so violent.

Right now, simply installing a new damper stops the DW from happening, at least for a little while. I bet a dual damper setup would keep it from happening for a much longer amount of time/miles.

I just don’t think you will ever get these coil sprung trucks to always be perfect coming off the line, I just think there are too many factors and too many components that have to remain perfect for the life of the truck. Putting dual dampers on would, at the very least, knock the issue way down.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by The Ace of Spades
oh I agree. The new dampers they are putting on these trucks on this recall, are nothing more than a band-aid and I've stated that many times. It's what they did on my 17 when I started noticing a slight wobble.

However, putting dual stabilizers/dampers on these trucks, would probably prevent a lot of accidents and soiled underwear.

It would, at the very least, lessen the effects of death wobble events and not make them so violent.

Right now, simply installing a new damper stops the DW from happening, at least for a little while. I bet a dual damper setup would keep it from happening for a much longer amount of time/miles.

I just don’t think you will ever get these coil sprung trucks to always be perfect coming off the line, I just think there are too many factors and too many components that have to remain perfect for the life of the truck. Putting dual dampers on would, at the very least, knock the issue way down.
As I stated on another thread relating to the front suspension/steering components; I do believe that Ford is using multiple suppliers for some of these components, and the quality control with some is a little short. Which answers the question of why some trucks get DW and others seem to go forever and no issues. Now for FoMoCo to go to the length of trying to figure out which suppliers parts went to which truck............good luck on that. It is way easier to just slap another stabilizer on and hope for the best. And maybe it is just me; but since the 2017+Remake the issue seems way more often than in previous generations. RAM on the other hand, seems to have been able to minimize the issue since the 2013 and later make-over. Don’t see it very often on their forums with those models. Time will tell though. And as stated.......maybe that is just me and what I am seeing.
 
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