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Old Nov 22, 2020 | 09:44 PM
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I would suggest getting actual battery cables. Underhood temperatures can get quite high (240 F) and welding cables are not insulated with material to withstand underhood temperatures.
Do not "make do" with some other cable, use an actual battery cable engineered to do the job. RFW has other kits of different lengths and battery terminal types to meet your need.
Summit Racing is a dealer for Ron Francis so you may get a better price.
Well, Ron Francis is not the end-all place for wiring or advice. Yes, they do have a few unique products, but their prices can't be justified. I'm really curious as to what situation you would have to see 240° temps under your hood.
And fwiw, real welding cable is MSHA certified heat and flame resistant.

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Why does one need flexible cable for your battery cable? Welding cable is constantly dragged around and location changed repeatedly. Battery cables are in the same place all the time, maybe moved a bit to clean the terminals or disconnect from the battery but for the most part they stay in one spot.
With flexibility comes the resistance to vibration, not to mention the ease of installation.

Welding cable has half again as much current carrying capacity of the same size AWG battery cable.

Disclaimer: I am not associated in any way with any welding cable supplier or dealer.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2020 | 11:06 AM
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O. K. I did some more research and found these two articles by wire and cable suppliers. The both say that the right gauge welding cable is acceptable if you need the flexibility.

https://blog.delcity.net/whats-the-d...lding-cable-2/

https://www.awcwire.com/blog/welding...oduct-knockout

In the past I had always heard that using welding cable was a bad idea. I stand corrected. Just understand that welding and battery cables are constructed differently with different insulation.

As a side note, I do not have any affiliation with Ron Francis Wiring. I have used their products and they have long time experience in the auto wiring field.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2020 | 08:29 AM
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I ordered 2/0 gauge battery cables in custom lengths and connectors for my truck from https://www.batterycablesusa.com/

Great prices, quick shipping, made in 'MURICA!!
 
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Old Nov 25, 2020 | 08:21 PM
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This is the route I went. 2/0 AWG stranded solid copper wire from BatteryCablesUSA.

Recall my truck is still positive ground, 6 volt. These cables run from battery to solenoid, then from solenoid to starter.



 
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Old Nov 25, 2020 | 08:42 PM
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They look like they'll do the job! It didn't take long to get them to you.

And I see you had a frosty beverage to assist you!
 
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Old Nov 25, 2020 | 09:59 PM
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This is the route I went. 2/0 AWG solid copper wire from BatteryCablesUSA.
Solid copper? Must have been real fun installing those. Stranded copper would have been much better and lots easier to work with.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2020 | 11:46 PM
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Solid copper? Must have been real fun installing those. Stranded copper would have been much better and lots easier to work with.
They are stranded copper as opposed to copper cladded aluminum.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 01:01 PM
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They are stranded copper as opposed to copper coated aluminum.
Ok, got it. Pure copper. Who in their right mind would buy CCA battery cables? Are they even sold?
 
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mixer man
Ok, got it. Pure copper. Who in their right mind would buy CCA battery cables? Are they even sold?

Cold Cranking Amp, CCA ? Who said they bought CCA Battery cables? And what are CCA Battery cables? I though CCA was a battery rating? Can you explain please? Thanks.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 03:03 PM
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Cold Cranking Amp, CCA ? Who said they bought CCA Battery cables? And what are CCA Battery cables? I though CCA was a battery rating? Can you explain please? Thanks.
CCA = Copper Clad Aluminum.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 03:06 PM
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CCA = Copper Clad Aluminum.

Ah ok! Why does Aluminum have a bad reputation in electrical? Is it not stable? I take it you don't like the CCA cables as opposed to 100% stranded copper.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 03:07 PM
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CCA in that instance does not refer to Cold Cranking Amps, but Copper-Clad Aluminum/Copper Coated Aluminum wire... CCA Wire is less expensive than solid/straight copper at the detriment of just about any other positive electrical property. CCA is often unscrupulously marketed as having a copper conductor to intentionally mislead those who think they are getting traditional copper wire.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 04:45 PM
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Ah ok! Why does Aluminum have a bad reputation in electrical? Is it not stable? I take it you don't like the CCA cables as opposed to 100% stranded copper.
Aluminum is ok for house drop cables and some feeder applications (per the NEC) where it is not exposed to vibration and cold working embrittlement.

Dissimilar metals, with the copper being the most noble on the galvanic scale. Expect high corrosion and failure in the wrong environment.

Aluminum conductors need to be half again the AWG size of copper conductors to carry the same load.

Note that many new vehicles are now using cca conductors for cost and weight considerations. Way cheaper than pure copper. Expect recalls.
 
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