1956 Master Cylinder
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1956 Master Cylinder
Going through the brakes on my 1956 F100. I also need to replace the master cylinder in the process. I like the additional safety of a dual reservoir master cylinder. But does anybody other than Classic Performance Parts offer a bracket for the conversion? It has the stock front and rear drum brakes, no power assist. I want to keep the master cylinder in the stock location under the cab.
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Thanks. I looked at their site and have purchased many parts from them. Mid Fifty sells the bracket kit made by Classic Performance Parts. It looks like all of Mid Fifty's non-stock brake parts and kits are from Classic Performance Parts. I get good service from Mid Fifty but I am noticing much of what they sell is simply purchased from other sources and then marked up. I can almost always find the same parts less expensive elsewhere.
No Limit Engineering has a completely different style bracket kit for under the cab. It looks much better than the CPP kit but I'll have to call them to see if it will also work with manual brakes.
No Limit Engineering has a completely different style bracket kit for under the cab. It looks much better than the CPP kit but I'll have to call them to see if it will also work with manual brakes.
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How about this ?
https://www.performanceonline.com/19...t-Drum-Brakes/
https://www.performanceonline.com/19...t-Drum-Brakes/
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Thanks. I looked at their site and have purchased many parts from them. Mid Fifty sells the bracket kit made by Classic Performance Parts. It looks like all of Mid Fifty's non-stock brake parts and kits are from Classic Performance Parts. I get good service from Mid Fifty but I am noticing much of what they sell is simply purchased from other sources and then marked up. I can almost always find the same parts less expensive elsewhere.
No Limit Engineering has a completely different style bracket kit for under the cab. It looks much better than the CPP kit but I'll have to call them to see if it will also work with manual brakes.
No Limit Engineering has a completely different style bracket kit for under the cab. It looks much better than the CPP kit but I'll have to call them to see if it will also work with manual brakes.
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I also did what this guy did, It was the first fabrication of a complete project I have ever done all by myself and unbelievably it came out alright. I know I probably say this too often, but my truck is daily driven 7 days a week. In ten minutes I'm taking it to work. The idea works and it has held up perfectly.
They do not sell the version of the mounting bracket that he uses, and I was unhappy with the "performanceonline" adapter so I also fabricated the adapter(after buying the PO plate and not being happy).
https://dinnerhillspeedshop.blogspot...drum-drum.html
finished: https://dinnerhillspeedshop.blogspot...ter%20cylinder
They do not sell the version of the mounting bracket that he uses, and I was unhappy with the "performanceonline" adapter so I also fabricated the adapter(after buying the PO plate and not being happy).
https://dinnerhillspeedshop.blogspot...drum-drum.html
finished: https://dinnerhillspeedshop.blogspot...ter%20cylinder
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This thread is a good discussion about what the brakets you can buy today do: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...alignment.html
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I have had two vehicles with the floor mounted master cylinder with less than perfect results. It was my fault, but I will not be doing another one, ... it is firewall mount forever for me. (on my '56)
If you are considering a brake upgrade to a booster or front disc at some time in the future, ... maybe think about starting with the dual master cylinder conversion on the firewall for now?
IMO it is better and easier.
If you are considering a brake upgrade to a booster or front disc at some time in the future, ... maybe think about starting with the dual master cylinder conversion on the firewall for now?
IMO it is better and easier.
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I have had two vehicles with the floor mounted master cylinder with less than perfect results. It was my fault, but I will not be doing another one, ... it is firewall mount forever for me. (on my '56)
If you are considering a brake upgrade to a booster or front disc at some time in the future, ... maybe think about starting with the dual master cylinder conversion on the firewall for now?
IMO it is better and easier.
If you are considering a brake upgrade to a booster or front disc at some time in the future, ... maybe think about starting with the dual master cylinder conversion on the firewall for now?
IMO it is better and easier.
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I also did what this guy did, It was the first fabrication of a complete project I have ever done all by myself and unbelievably it came out alright. I know I probably say this too often, but my truck is daily driven 7 days a week. In ten minutes I'm taking it to work. The idea works and it has held up perfectly.
They do not sell the version of the mounting bracket that he uses, and I was unhappy with the "performanceonline" adapter so I also fabricated the adapter(after buying the PO plate and not being happy).
https://dinnerhillspeedshop.blogspot...drum-drum.html
finished: https://dinnerhillspeedshop.blogspot...ter%20cylinder
They do not sell the version of the mounting bracket that he uses, and I was unhappy with the "performanceonline" adapter so I also fabricated the adapter(after buying the PO plate and not being happy).
https://dinnerhillspeedshop.blogspot...drum-drum.html
finished: https://dinnerhillspeedshop.blogspot...ter%20cylinder
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Would you share what kit you used and any advice on the install? I have a ‘56 that came with the no limit frame mount one but I haven’t plumbed it yet and my cab is still off. Curious about the problems you had with the frame mount ones and if those would apply to my build.
Sold the truck last year and when the guy showed up for a test drive (with me) the brakes were good, after the test drive with the city driver going too fast into corners and hammering the brakes there was none. I got his money, he got a truck with no brakes.
Sorry, only poor picture that I have of the MC, heidts economy MII.
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Master cylinder for late 60's mustang; mine is for a '67 fairlane drum-drum
I also have had inconsistent pedal feel and hate it, but I relate that to me understanding things poorly, not the principle.
Nonetheless you might consider a firewal mounted unit as well.
I also have had inconsistent pedal feel and hate it, but I relate that to me understanding things poorly, not the principle.
Nonetheless you might consider a firewal mounted unit as well.
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Thanks. But now your the second person in this thread that has inconsistent pedal feel with one of these setups. Sounds like there is still a small pocket of air trapped in the system? The master cylinder in the stock location isn't the highest point in the system. I'd think a pressure bleeder is probably the best method to bleed the system. A firewall mount for me out of the question. I just don't like hanging pedals in these old trucks.
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I appreciate all the input. After reading through all of them and the issues that arise, I think I'll stay with the original style master cylinder. I know not as safe, but it fits correctly and works without any odd issues. I'll be certain the emergency brake is also in good working order.